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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell


That's better.


Do you think I give a Rat's BUTT ? Well I don't FIDO.

Go tell your mama she misses you.

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My first deer rifle as a Winchester M/88, its magazine was well designed, easy to use I liked it. Worked on Browning BLR's and have always thought their detachable magazine to be a poorly designed POS.

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I don't know but

I've been using the elastic ammo holders since 2016 err 2013, and so far I haven't lost 1 round.
I have them on M70, 6.5X55

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and T3 270

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and T3X 7 RM

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3rd Deer < 2 empties in slots = 2 deer before.

I plan IF I can remember to get 2 more. I have FMD (fading memory disorder)


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Pat,

As I recall you killed that bear with a cartridge most Campfire experts (especially those who've never seen a grizzly) would consider totally inadequate for such a task!


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[quote=hanco]Anyone have any Kleinguenther K-15 magazines??


I do - but I use them in my Kleinguenther....... smirk grin

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Pat,

As I recall you killed that bear with a cartridge most Campfire experts (especially those who've never seen a grizzly) would consider totally inadequate for such as task!

What's the build sheet on that rifle?


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That bear must have been attracted to the blue tape.

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Originally Posted by shaman
The other reason is legality. Given most state hunting laws, it is prohibited to be loaded up outside of legal hunting hours.


Really? I am surprised. That is not true of my home state of Oregon .. which leans left most of the time. Our state F&G people tried to restrict what we could carry / not carry but State Legislature put them in their place: F&G have some say about what you can hunt with but not about what you can or can't carry. It had been forbidden for archery or muzzleloader hunters to carry a handgun but that was reversed in the 90s when we became a shall-issue state. I can legally carry any gun I own in the car, loaded. Chamber hot for that matter though I choose not to. I'm very surprised that more right-leaning states are so restrictive. frown frown

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WTF do elastic ammo holders have to do with detachable magazines ?

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Originally Posted by jwall
Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell


That's better.


Do you think I give a Rat's BUTT ? Well I don't FIDO.
Go tell your mama she misses you.

jwall


laugh We can always tell when your meds are wearing off. Just try to remain focused on the thread. crazy


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Originally Posted by shaman
The other reason is legality. Given most state hunting laws, it is prohibited to be loaded up outside of legal hunting hours.


Really? I am surprised. That is not true of my home state of Oregon .. which leans left most of the time. Our state F&G people tried to restrict what we could carry / not carry but State Legislature put them in their place: F&G have some say about what you can hunt with but not about what you can or can't carry. It had been forbidden for archery or muzzleloader hunters to carry a handgun but that was reversed in the 90s when we became a shall-issue state. I can legally carry any gun I own in the car, loaded. Chamber hot for that matter though I choose not to. I'm very surprised that more right-leaning states are so restrictive. frown frown

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Conceivably, if a C/0 or warden or F&G guy were to drop by your blind and find you loaded up a half hour before legal hunting time, he could possibly cite you. Now, this is mostly theoretical. As I said, I haven't seen anyone cited for this alone. However, if the CO hears shots going off before legal hunting coming from your place on a regular basis, and he decides to slip in for a check. . . that could be how you end up getting nailed. It used to be the woods were ablaze 15-30 minutes before legal hunting around our place when we first moved in. Now? I may hear one or two early shots. My guess there were a few visits when the new CO took over about 15 years ago. This was also about the time the semi-auto muzzleloaders stopped being heard. The other thing that will get you nailed for sure is if he finds you jacklighting. You can say the gazillion power spotlight was just so you can light your way to your blind, but if you've got a loaded rifle . . . that's going to be a citation.

Also, I'll tell you that the Hunter Ed that I went through twice with two sons discouraged walking around with a nocked arrow or a loaded gun. The old guy that used to teach it said in essence "You can stop thinking you're going to shoot a deer on the way to your blind. It ain't gonna happen. It's much safer to stay unloaded until you get where you're going." I was still bowhunting at the time, and it dawned on me that I had not seen a deer when I'd been skulking to my stand in 25 years and I stopped. I still walk in at midday with my rifle loaded, but again, I ain't seen anything on the way in years.


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Originally Posted by gunswizard
WTF do elastic ammo holders have to do with detachable magazines ?


JWALL mentioned it. I just followed up on it-- as if these conversations don't drift.

However, in the general scheme of things, it's all about how we carry our ammo.


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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
Originally Posted by jwall


Do you think I give a Rat's BUTT ? Well I don't FIDO.
Go tell your mama she misses you.

jwall


laugh We can always tell when your meds are wearing off. Just try to remain focused on the thread. crazy


You are the DUMBEST mutt I've encountered here on the 'fire', FIDO.
As I said, I don't give a Rat's BUTT what you think....I always skip your yapping.

I'm not inclined to pay attention to Lost Puppies and you're SO FAR AWAY from home.
Did you not notice you crossed the National Line into the United States of America ?

Your owners surely don't know you've run away from 'mother' Canada!

As a Citizen of America.... I don't CARE what someone from the French Annex thinks or says.
Do you remember WHY the French have 2 reverses on their tanks?
So they can BACK UP no matter where the enemy approaches!!
Aren't you proud ?


I'll bet you lost your collar with Nameplate showing your owners address FIDO.
I'd be glad to notify them as to your whereabouts, so they can put you back in the pen.

Now FIDO run along and hopefully you'll find your way home. FIDO

I made a promise that I'd DO THIS and I kept my word!


jwall... I SAID THAT.


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Originally Posted by shaman
Originally Posted by gunswizard
WTF do elastic ammo holders have to do with detachable magazines ?


JWALL mentioned it. I just followed up on it-- as if these conversations don't drift.

However, in the general scheme of things, it's all about how we carry our ammo.


Thanks shaman. Yes, gunwiz, we were discussing D Ms and I said I don't carry an Xtra DM but use the elastic ammo holders INSTEAD of a box (no matter what kind).

Yes it's a tangent but is related to using DMs and/or carrying an xtra one while hunting.

No offense intended.

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Originally Posted by jwall
...jwall... I SAID THAT.


laugh We always know when your meds wear off. Nap time, Jerry.

I caught you peaking again. grin


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why don't you a s s holes put it to rest?

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shaman,

This statement of yours "The other reason is legality. Given most state hunting laws, it is prohibited to be loaded up outside of legal hunting hours" is not true. Apparently you haven't hunted many places (or researched various states' hunting regs). There are quite a few states where they don't care if you are "loaded up" during hunting hours. In my home state of Montana, for instance, it's legal to have a round in the chamber no matter the hour, or whether the rifle/shotgun is inside or outside a vehicle--and there are other states with FAR more flexible regs than in your limited knowledge.

I know this from hunting big game in over half the United States.
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Originally Posted by huntsman22
why don't you a s s holes put it to rest?


Well sir, I would not blame you if
you had a troll !!

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
shaman,

This statement of yours "The other reason is legality. Given most state hunting laws, it is prohibited to be loaded up outside of legal hunting hours" is not true. Apparently you haven't hunted many places (or researched various states' hunting regs). There are quite a few states where they don't care if you are "loaded up" during hunting hours. In my home state of Montana, for instance, it's legal to have a round in the chamber no matter the hour, or whether the rifle/shotgun is inside or outside a vehicle--and there are other states with FAR more flexible regs than in your limited knowledge.

I know this from hunting big game in over half the United States.
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Yes, I'm pretty much of a shut-in. Ohio, KY, PA, MI and IN mostly, and mostly deer and turkey. These are high-density states and the generally don't want hunters shooting each other in the dark.

I just checked Montana's regs:

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Hunting Hours (CR)Authorized hunting hours for the taking of game animals begin one-half hour before sunrise and end one-half hour after sunset each day of the hunting season. See the official Sunrise-Sunset Tables listed on page 135.


That differs from some states . I suppose it also makes it handy when you have bears and such bumping about in the dark.





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