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Originally Posted by Blacktail53
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It's not the cartridge, its the blind subservience to it when there are so many better cartridges available.

Whatever. Shoot what ya like.


This....^


I'd like someone to actually name a "better" cartridge.

And why can't those who feel there are such cartridges make their case without ad hominem slurs like "blind subservience" when talking about 30-096 advocates?


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If a person doesn't know what cartridges are better than the 30-06, then there is no point in listing them for him - that gets back to the "blind" part of the "blind subservience" description.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
If a person doesn't know what cartridges are better than the 30-06, then there is no point in listing them for him - that gets back to the "blind" part of the "blind subservience" description.

JMHO


Can't do it, huh?


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Originally Posted by shinbone
If a person doesn't know what cartridges are better than the 30-06, then there is no point in listing them for him - that gets back to the "blind" part of the "blind subservience" description.

JMHO
Better how?

Just curious.
Faster means more powder burnt, less barrel life.
Bigger means more recoil, more expense.

Not that there's anything wrong with those, they are value judgments. What do you value?


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in the 30 caliber realm ..... these are all better than the 30'06

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Originally Posted by Swamplord
in the 30 caliber realm ..... these are all better than the 30'06

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So you claim. But that is all it is, a claim with nothing to back it up.

And even if they are "better" in your mind, that doesn't mean they are universally better for everyone and there are millions of people who would dispute your claim based on what is "better" for them.

Your point of view, narrow as it is, is only that a personal opinion.


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and so are these ... cause theys mine mang ! lol

power is sexy

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30 cal. 175 gr Federal Terminal Ascent bullets

300 LRC (2" Norma Imp)
300 LRH (Norma Imp)
300 RUM
300 Razor (30/500 NE Imp)
300 Headhunter (30/470 NE Imp)
300 Wolverine (30/500 Jeffery Imp)


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Originally Posted by Swamplord
and so are these ... cause theys mine mang ! lol

power is sexy

left to right

30 cal. 175 gr Federal Terminal Ascent bullets

300 LRC (2" Norma Imp)
300 LRH (Norma Imp)
300 RUM
300 Razor (30/500 NE Imp)
300 Headhunter (30/470 NE Imp)
300 Wolverine (30/500 Jeffery Imp)


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I like your choice of bullet (Terminal Ascent) and had planned to hunt with a 155g TA in my .280 Rem this year. Worked up loads for the 280 and 7mm RM, then practiced out to 600. They shoot very well in my rifles. Unfortunately I waited too long to order more and have them on backorder. I'll be hunting elk using the 280 Rem loaded with 150g ABLR instead.


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So you claim. But that is all it is, a claim with nothing to back it up.

And even if they are "better" in your mind, that doesn't mean they are universally better for everyone and there are millions of people who would dispute your claim based on what is "better" for them.

Your point of view, narrow as it is, is only that a personal opinion.


Which is exactly the same as what the "30-06 sycophants" do and say. How ironic that they are the victims of their own arguments. But, of course they will deny it, which is where that pesky word "blind" crops up again. So sad for them.

Again, shoot what ya like.

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Originally Posted by shinbone
So you claim. But that is all it is, a claim with nothing to back it up.

And even if they are "better" in your mind, that doesn't mean they are universally better for everyone and there are millions of people who would dispute your claim based on what is "better" for them.

Your point of view, narrow as it is, is only that a personal opinion.


Which is exactly the same as what the "30-06 sycophants" do and say. How ironic that they are the victims of their own arguments. But, of course they will deny it, which is where that pesky word "blind" crops up again. So sad for them.

Again, shoot what ya like.


I'll be the first to admit that "better" is a personal opinion. It is, in fact, something I've pointed out many times and have done so a couple times again in this thread. That doesn't make me a "30-06 sycophant", even though my money has supported my belief as to which is "better" for me. And that's a .30-06 six times and I still have three. Zero .300 RUM rifles ever, and I don't see that changing.

I agree, people are free to shoot what they want - I couldn't care less what they choose.


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If theres anything sexier & cooler than big 30's , that would be big 338's

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Its interesting, when I was in Mekoryuk AK at the general store, they had all those 30 cal ammo's in stock. They are cool, not going to argue that

I just warmed up my 25yo '06 for elk season

20" barrel, off the shelf factory rifle (from 25year ago, no work, no bedding, no trigger job, to it ever) , with off the shelf Hornady ammo, 165g 2900fps

with a bipod and no rear rest, no sand bag, shot a 2 3/4" group, with light winds and heat mirage

that was at 400y BTW

Elk Season starts tomorrow for me

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Originally Posted by MtnT
Its interesting, when I was in Mekoryuk AK at the general store, they had all those 30 cal ammo's in stock. They are cool, not going to argue that

I just warmed up my 25yo '06 for elk season

20" barrel, off the shelf factory rifle (from 25year ago, no work, no bedding, no trigger job, to it ever) , with off the shelf Hornady ammo, 165g 2900fps

with a bipod and no rear rest, no sand bag, shot a 2 3/4" group, with light winds and heat mirage

that was at 400y BTW

Elk Season starts tomorrow for me



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swamplord sounds familiar.


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swamplord sounds familiar.


Yep, the Creature from the Black Lagoon Lives.


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