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Well folks, I have it narrowed down to one of the two, probably a 2016 or 2017 is affordable for me. The cummins is reportedly a much better diesel than the duramax, some claim problems with the duramax at 200,000 miles while almost everyone agrees the cummins is a 500,000 mile motor. On the other hand the Ram trucks are said to beset with electrical problems and have more transmission problems? I have always liked Chevy trucks but finding that Isuzu builds the duramax makes me gravitate to the cummins. Anyone have a high mileage 16 or 17 or there about's year model Ram or Chevy 2500 or 3500 they can share their experience with? I like the gas trucks but I think if your planning on being on the road for extended periods the diesel makes more sense and will last longer. I like the new 20202 chevy 10 speed transmission but they are priced out of my range. I am leaning to a crew cab long bed single non-dually 3500 for a once and done solution. Going Mobile for a while.
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I always like Chevy products, but I have a 2004 Dodge Diesel that has 200,000 miles. I’ve had the front end rebuilt and two water pumps. I bought another Dodge diesel in 2018. It has 14,000 on it now, no problem with it either. I wouldn’t have anything else.
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Small sample size. I know 3 individuals who are pipeline welders. Put north of 100 miles per day, every day, on diesel 3500 series welding rigs tipping the scales at about 12,000 GVW. One Dodge has had zero issues over the past several years. One Dodge had an injector pump puke and was "making oil". Took some "negotiating", but dealer finally stood behind it. One Duramax has blown two motors in same time period...
Personally, I am on my 4th Dodge diesel in past 20 years (2005 W2500) with 200.000 miles. Only issue I have had is to rebuild the front end a couple times.
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Friends do not let friends buy a duramax.
DON'T DO IT!
Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.
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Friends do not let friends buy a duramax.
DON'T DO IT!
That’s funny!
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I have driven both for 100K miles. I have both in my company fleet. The Dodge w Cummins is far better. Overall the Dodge trucks have really upped their game in last few years.
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Just talked to a friend the other day from Texas. His Ram was acting up, like the turbo went out. He wasn’t sure if it was electrical or not.
If you can delete what ever you get, that’s the ticket.
I run a Ford 550. I have put 40k on in a year. No problems. Great work truck and I am not a ford fan at all.
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I like my duramax. They all.have potential issues but both are excellent engines. Isuzu doesn't build the duramax engine. General Motors and Isuzu went in together(joint venture)and built a plant to exclusively build the Duramax engine. They are all made at that one American plant. I like the Cummins engine but absolutely do not like Dodge trucks. To each there own.
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Ford Chassis, Rams diesel,Chevy transmission and ride.
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If you get a Duramax get the 17, I think 16 was the last year of the CP4 pump
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Since the UAW has continued their line of stupidity and endorsed and voted for Biden The Fraudulent. I will only be purchasing foreign made vehicles. Hopefully Ram sends their production back overseas....that no good Trump talked them into bringing it back to MI, and they showed him!! They voted for the Outsource King....so if that's what they want, that's what they will get.
I may concede to a vehicle made in a Red state, but I'm done with Detroit for good. The sooner all the jobs leave MI the better, IMO. Let the muslims have it, the former UAW workers can raise and butcher goats for them.
Anyone that considers a GM vehicle after what Obama did, during his first term, needs their head examined...
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This is a bit older than what the OP's talking about but I have an '08 Dodge diesel and my partner has an '07. The Turbo went out in his. The mechanic told him to drive with the exhaust brake turned on all the time. I don't know how it all works but apparently the brake somehow keeps the crud blown out of the turbo. Both of these have the DPF but are pre-DEF.
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Since the UAW has continued their line of stupidity and endorsed and voted for Biden The Fraudulent. I will only be purchasing foreign made vehicles. Hopefully Ram sends their production back overseas....that no good Trump talked them into bringing it back to MI, and they showed him!! They voted for the Outsource King....so if that's what they want, that's what they will get.
I may concede to a vehicle made in a Red state, but I'm done with Detroit for good. The sooner all the jobs leave MI the better, IMO. Let the muslims have it, the former UAW workers can raise and butcher goats for them.
Anyone that considers a GM vehicle after what Obama did, during his first term, needs their head examined...
That’s why I bought a tundra
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that is great that some diesels can go 500K that is if the frame dont rot out before that
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Toyota makes a very good 1/2 ton but they don't make a 3/4 or 1 ton and they don't make a diesel. A Tundra can't do what the OP needs done.
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Ford 7.3l Powerstroke for the win !!!
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Toyota makes a very good 1/2 ton but they don't make a 3/4 or 1 ton and they don't make a diesel. A Tundra can't do what the OP needs done. I am pretty sure they make one ton trucks. other countries get them but not in the US
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Since the UAW has continued their line of stupidity and endorsed and voted for Biden The Fraudulent. I will only be purchasing foreign made vehicles. Hopefully Ram sends their production back overseas....that no good Trump talked them into bringing it back to MI, and they showed him!! They voted for the Outsource King....so if that's what they want, that's what they will get.
I may concede to a vehicle made in a Red state, but I'm done with Detroit for good. The sooner all the jobs leave MI the better, IMO. Let the muslims have it, the former UAW workers can raise and butcher goats for them.
Anyone that considers a GM vehicle after what Obama did, during his first term, needs their head examined... That’s why I bought a tundra Y'all need to catch up with the global economy... > Dodge 2500's and 3500's "Heche en Mexico" with 70% U.S. content. > Toyota Tundra's are manufactured in San Antonio Texas, with 75% U.S. content. So, which one is "foreign made"? And, which one is "Made in the U.S.A."?
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My 2006 Ram 3500 just turned 285,000 miles and runs like a champ. No problems with the Cummins at all.
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I would look for a 2018 or newer RAM 6.4L Hemi. That is the the first year for the 8 speed auto trans. I have a 2017 6.4L, 6 speed with 4:10 axles and it get 1 mpg less than the Diesels. Diesel is great if you need it. I don't purchase for the 1% use.
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