Hey guys I been trying to work up a load in .223 with 64gr power points and seem to be have a terrible amount of bullet setback , as soon as it comes out of the crimp die I can literally push it into case with my fingers I have tried crimping more to no avail , any ideas ? Thanks .
Hey guys I been trying to work up a load in .223 with 64gr power points and seem to be have a terrible amount of bullet setback , as soon as it comes out of the crimp die I can literally push it into case with my fingers I have tried crimping more to no avail , any ideas ? Thanks .
Why are you using a crimp die? Have you tried regular ol seating dies. No need to crimp that bullet.. Also, are you seating the bullet too deep?
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Measure your expander ball on your resizer. Johnny's reloading (Youtube) found one of the dies he used had an expander ball that was larger than the diameter of the bullet.
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I've seen this problem in 223 with brass that has been work-hardened and needs annealing. Anneal solved my problem.
That said, it could ALSO be an expander ball issue or possibly a bullet diameter issue. Some are oversize, some are under-size. I still think it's a brass issue though.
Measure bullet diameter, recent production 64 gr power points are closer to .223 than .224 in diameter.
Measure expander diameter, should be .002 or so smaller than your bullet.
Did you set the bullet seating depth and then screwed the die down to crimp? If so you may be seating the bullet too deep into the case past the full diameter shank of the bullet.
I’m a Dillon 750, which is seating and crimping in separate stations , I reload about 1k rounds a week of 223/5.56 have been using these same dies for about a year and this is the only bullet I have had issues with, however I will measure expander ball and probably need to start annealing, any recommendations on the most efficient way to anneal ? Also will confirm diameter of these power points ! Thanks guys
propane tank, filled like 10 plus years ago... metal tree, with a $6.00 plumbers torch on top...
hold a 223 case into the flame upside down and count to six... drop it in a metal decorative pail.. a $1.00 a Walmart like 10 years ago... let it air cool...and an older than dirt needle nose pliers...
Was given the tank and the tree... and other wise, I filled the tank for like 8bucks in 2010... and $7 invested in the Walmart bucket, and $6 in the plumbers torch....
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Well... you could do a lot worse than this one. I use it, and don't need the Tempilac fluid any more. Can do almost 1000 .223 cases in an hour. Once you get the hang of it, you can move really fast! Anyway, this costs about $100 bucks, or you can see the second video on how to copy this guys invention for cheap.
Some people like these bullets, but I tried them in several rifles (.223 and .22-250) with varying twist rates and found them capable of mediocre accuracy at best. They're very cheap and perhaps that's the attraction, but other bullets like the excellent Sierra 65 GK are far more accurate, though at a greater cost. Good luck in your endeavor-
I have had the same trouble with the 64 grain power points. I blame it on the shape of the bullet, when you load them for an AR your seating them to deep and getting on the taper of the bullet. I have had good luck with accuracy but I always crimped heavy with a Lee collet die.