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I've seen a few stocks made from Koa...beautiful.

So does his family who left him..

Amen.

Cluck,

Only YOU,can prevent you,from saying something fhuqking STUPID and I enjoy the Fact,that you can't even come close to "doing" that "much"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

Time for you to yet again,fill out another Hurt Feelers Report,as you wax eloquent upon your very WELL founded Insecurities. Hint. LAUGHING!

Bless your heart for Crying though.

Hint.

LAUGHING!................







barreldye,

Don't forget,that Crying Karens will ALWAYS find fhuqking something to Cry about and most often their pay check. Hint.

LAUGHING!.................







'STUART,

I just never learned how to linger. Hint.

CryLee is a rather "lucky" kchunt and her tears are HILARIOUSLY heartfelt. Hint.

Bless her poor poor(literally) heart.

Hint.

LAUGHING!.................






'F,

I've only murdered King Koa's. Hint.

LAUGHING!..................








boobie,

How goes your TRYING to "convince" yourself,that you "don't care"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?



Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for doing your best,with what INCREDIBLY fhuqking little you "have" to "work" with.

Hint.

LAUGHING!.................






AKlaverne,

Don't be too tough on her,just be sure to ask her what she "does" for a "living",which mandates her "living" vicariously in such grandiose fashion...the "lucky" kchunt. Hint.

Only "fair",to keep her tears flowin'. Hint.

LAUGHING!...................

It wasn’t a criticism. It was a question. I don’t have any desire to have two dozen similar rifles, so I thought there might be more to the story. But I guess not. I don’t give a [bleep] if he has a thousand. It was just a question. Damn you people are sensitive.

CryLee,

You haven't the "means","abilities" or "comprehension" to "do" anything other than Whine and it's FUNNIER than fhuqk,that you "think" that is a "choice"...you "lucky" kchunt. Hint. Congratulations?!?

You take sensitivity to new levels,if only due your INCREDIBLY long list of very WELL founded Insecurities. Read that again. now one more time. Hint. LAUGHING!

Might I suggest,that you keep TRYING to "convince" yourself,that you "don't care",you HILARIOUSLY Whining Clueless Fhuqktard. Hint. Laughing!

Fortunately for you,Imagination and Pretend are free,so you can "afford" to "contribute". Hint.

LAUGHING!



Bless your poor poor(literally) heart,for doing your BEST.

Hint.

LAUGHING!................

I’m not perfect, but finances are not a weakness for me.

Ripping Koa



Koa glued and pinned

They are for me, otherwise I would be shopping at Dorleac and Dorleac.

Nice work Clark!
Even straight grained, koa can be beautiful with contrasting stripes. ...but if you ever see a curly piece properly sawn and finished...my god, the wood looks like it has a living fire inside it. Of course pieces like that go for $150 a board foot and up.

I'm coming full circle now. Last summer, my son did a project collecting koa seed, growing them to seedling and outplanting to reforest. I've still got about 50 seedlings in my backyard!

...apologies to the OP for my tangent. Carry on folks.

For hunting, I'm not a dialer. I use a .257 Weatherby mag sighted in at 300 yards. Drop at 400 is 8 inches, so for that distance I would hold the crosshair right on an animal's back. In the heat of hunting, with an adrenalin rush, there is no time to think about much except finding the animal in your scope. If over 400 yards I won't take the shot. That is really specialty stuff. But a ballistic reticle would seem better to me than dialing for over 400 yards if you understand your markings.

Even for a 400 yard shot there is most times no need for holdover if the animal is elevated above or below you, a situation that happens quite often. In this situation, if you aim at the top of the back, you will shoot over the animal.

Your conclusion makes an excellent case for dialing, or holding in a MRAD or Mildot Ret, your ACTUAL dope. No guesswork or approximations involved.

Agreed on the dialing/holding verified DOPE, but it’d take a lot of shooting at various distances and inclination/declination angles to get DOPE for every possible combination. That’s one place where ballistic solvers do a very good job, once you’ve got good DOPE on flat ground, since it’s a simple and accurate calculation to take the cosine of the inclination angle.

Yes, my Leica 1600-B does a very good job with those angles, giving me a solution in yrds, which I dial on my scope. I always shoot to verify. Very nice system, directions for set up are reasonably easy to use..even for an old fart like me.

Yes, my Leica 1600-B does a very good job with those angles, giving me a solution in yrds, which I dial on my scope. I always shoot to verify. Very nice system, directions for set up are reasonably easy to use..even for an old fart like me.

Normally I’d agree, but the guide has told me that shots could be 400 yards or a bit beyond, so I’m preparing for that.


I occasionally have this problem when the range is 30-40 yards and I have 2-3 seconds to shoot, which is common when still-hunting blacktails. At 100-150 yards I may have 5-6 seconds but I use that time for mechanics: getting into a sling, building a solid position, etc. I spend a LOT of the pre-season getting to where I can do that stuff without thinking so I’m free to focus on the shot itself. When the crosshairs settle on the animal, I want my mind to be empty except for the crosshairs and the feeling of the trigger under my finger.


I’ve gotten hits a bit beyond 400 by holding over and hits out to 800 by dialing, although my dialing experience is close to three decades old. I’m looking for the line where it makes sense to start dialing. Based on the responses to this thread, it looks like that's at MPBR, or about 300 yards for a 30-06/180, which is what I'm using for this hunt.


I’ve hunted this area extensively. I fully expect a significant difference in elevation between me and my target. Shooting over—or any other lack of precision that could result in a wounded or lost animal—is exactly what I’m trying to avoid.

Looks like I'll be dialing.


Okie John

The "Over or Under" shooting of a target at significant elevation difference should not be an issue if using a good compensating laser range finder......

My RF does the math for me and compensates for the angle, whether bow or rifle hunting.
So, for me again... it's dial time for anything past my PBR.

If there isn't time to range a target before it gets away, there's little doubt that you really have time for much more than a WAG and a hold over or painting with a mil or moa reticle....imo of course.

16 pages and no discussion of the Burris Eliminator approach? Built in range finder, on-board ballistics calculator, red dot lights up telling you where to aim. Seems like the perfect solution. There must be something wrong with it or folks that obsess with LR shooting/hunting would be all over it like Stick on 6x42 Super Chickens.

My thoughts exactly and chances are if it’s that far it’d be a heckuva time to get a stable position and make sure the animal was where I could get to it and find it post shot.

My HD-B's compensate for angle. Paired with a RZ6 or RZ8 depending on the gun I have had no problems hitting targets out to 600 yards.