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I can tell you guys for a fact, Hornady's about shut down due to the bologna virus. When coupled with demand, there you are... Yes the Chinese virus is a big problem in supply chains, but it's not like they have a bunch of people using hand loaders. I mean these are automated processes, no? If anything can be manufactured through an automated assembly I would think ammo would be. If you have a big supply problem....what are you going to make with your automated processes? Well ... obviously nothing, but why do one minute you hear they are running 24/7 and the next minute they are shut down. I'm just curious as to what "supplies" exactly are in short supply. How short. That's just the way I think. I like numbers. I always dig deeper than, "okay, thanks for the explanation". I can only speak for federal, they do not have a supply issue with raw materials it is strictly a demand issue. They can only produce so manyRounds per day, and the demand exceeds that.They also do not produce every caliber they are capable of producing every day.
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I don’t go “pew pew pew” in the backyard.
I’m in need of nothing One tag. One bullet. And if you hunt every year that doubles as target practice too. That's how I roll.
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As far as NICS checks go, remember that one check can involve multiple guns. I've seen a lot of new owners buy both a handgun and a long gun for protection. Before I retired last week, the shop I worked at was at 8500 guns for the year. Our previous best was 6300. Good point. So true, handgun in 9mm and a 12 gauge shotgun?(just an example )And they want ammo for both, lots of ammo for both....
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I don’t go “pew pew pew” in the backyard.
I’m in need of nothing One tag. One bullet. And if you hunt every year that doubles as target practice too. That's how I roll. Most people I know don’t hunt but they shoot a lot, I hunt and shoot a lot :-)
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I can tell you guys for a fact, Hornady's about shut down due to the bologna virus. When coupled with demand, there you are... Yes the Chinese virus is a big problem in supply chains, but it's not like they have a bunch of people using hand loaders. I mean these are automated processes, no? If anything can be manufactured through an automated assembly I would think ammo would be. If you have a big supply problem....what are you going to make with your automated processes? Well ... obviously nothing, but why do one minute you hear they are running 24/7 and the next minute they are shut down. I'm just curious as to what "supplies" exactly are in short supply. How short. That's just the way I think. I like numbers. I always dig deeper than, "okay, thanks for the explanation". Perhaps because at one time they had supplies, extra employees and easy transport....and now they don’t. Their business is to sell their product. You think one of them wouldn’t put it on the shelves...if another company couldn’t? Sometimes one can dig deep while the answers don’t require it....
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I can tell you guys for a fact, Hornady's about shut down due to the bologna virus. When coupled with demand, there you are... Yes the Chinese virus is a big problem in supply chains, but it's not like they have a bunch of people using hand loaders. I mean these are automated processes, no? If anything can be manufactured through an automated assembly I would think ammo would be. A friend of mine has a connection there. They are shut down for all practical purposes.
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I can tell you guys for a fact, Hornady's about shut down due to the bologna virus. When coupled with demand, there you are... Yes the Chinese virus is a big problem in supply chains, but it's not like they have a bunch of people using hand loaders. I mean these are automated processes, no? If anything can be manufactured through an automated assembly I would think ammo would be. If you have a big supply problem....what are you going to make with your automated processes? Well ... obviously nothing, but why do one minute you hear they are running 24/7 and the next minute they are shut down. I'm just curious as to what "supplies" exactly are in short supply. How short. That's just the way I think. I like numbers. I always dig deeper than, "okay, thanks for the explanation". Perhaps because at one time they had supplies, extra employees and easy transport....and now they don’t. Their business is to sell their product. You think one of them wouldn’t put it on the shelves...if another company couldn’t? Sometimes one can dig deep while the answers don’t require it.... Perhaps. I agree covid has had a fluctuating affect through out the year. No, I think all the companies would sell all they had. I just wish I could see numbers of where and when. Like I said. I like numbers.
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This seems to happen every election cycle.
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I can tell you guys for a fact, Hornady's about shut down due to the bologna virus. When coupled with demand, there you are... Yes the Chinese virus is a big problem in supply chains, but it's not like they have a bunch of people using hand loaders. I mean these are automated processes, no? If anything can be manufactured through an automated assembly I would think ammo would be. A friend of mine has a connection there. They are shut down for all practical purposes. Thanks for the info.
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In my part of the world, ammo is extremely hard to find, and when word gets out that a store has some, it is usually gone within a couple of hours. There are still shotgun shells on the shelves, but rifle and pistol ammo is just not to be found. I have heard of some deer hunters who waited too late about buying some, and have had to sit out the season as a result. That is what I call extremely poor planning. That's not poor planning. That's stupidity at its finest.
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I have heard of some deer hunters who waited too late about buying some, and have had to sit out the season as a result. Fuqk em, I can't imagine owning a deer rifle and not having several boxes of ammo for it. Never bought a rifle that I didn’t immediately go & buy 600 rds for it. That’s my minimum. Have way more for my .338 as it was a rifle used most frequently. Semi autos burn at a faster rate, so of course you need more. Lucky to have some connections here to help w some .223 desires But nothing on shelves around here besides 10mm. I need to unload some Benjamin’s on my kids to go buy it I guess 🤷🏻♂️ Both my wife & daughter have 10mm pistols as their berry picking guns. Am leery to let my kids shoot up much because I see it getting worse before ever better. I wonder if a FISA request would let us know how much the govt is buying up to keep their employees armed ? I could see that being a strategy of the new administration IF they take over which sadly seems more likely w each passing day
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One thing is certain, the more threads people post about ammo shortages, the better the situation will get.
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Who closed the LEAD mine in the USA>>> The EPA under Obama kwg
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One thing is certain, the more threads people post about ammo shortages, the better the situation will get. I'm sure most people reading this thread are not the problem. Now if CBS news runs a story on gun purchases I suspect that has an effect.
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The shortage is real. The fact that it exists is ridiculous.
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Sure be glad when China and India start selling hunting ammo. I think we're being scammed, gun control is impossible to implement, but ammo availability renders a gun about useless. You ain't seen nothing yet, just wait till the dumocrats gain control.
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What numbers would make you happy? Where or from whom do you think you can find them? However.....until someone or you can come up with them....the numbers on the shelves are little to none..
Restaurant sales are down, same with airlines, trucking, sports, hospital electives, brick and mortar sales, etc, etc.....why would the numbers of rifle components be any different?
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One thing is certain, the more threads people post about ammo shortages, the better the situation will get. I'm sure most people reading this thread are not the problem. Sure, and nobody here stocked up on toilet paper either.
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Restaurant sales are down, same with airlines, trucking, sports, hospital electives, brick and mortar sales, etc, etc.....why would the numbers of rifle components be any different?
Battue, when you say "numbers of rifle components, are you talking sales figures or available inventory?
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What numbers would make you happy? Where or from whom do you think you can find them? However.....until someone or you can come up with them....the numbers on the shelves are little to none..
Restaurant sales are down, same with airlines, trucking, sports, hospital electives, brick and mortar sales, etc, etc.....why would the numbers of rifle components be any different? Aren't the sales of rifle components up while the sale other things listed are down? Seems that the one contradicts the other.
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