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DF; thanks for the link to .308 review. Very interesting.
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DF; thanks for the link to .308 review. Very interesting. Don’t think that hog would agree. That is an interesting bullet. If I was in a lead free zone, I’d be a serious CEB customer. Sorta expensive. DF
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Well CEB is now out of the 150 gr. Raptor, but have the 160's. I ordered some, got a big Cyber Monday discount.
So, am off to the races with load development.
Today would be a good time to order.
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Ordered sample packs (15 bullets) from Hammer Bullets, got their .358, 178 gr. and 203 gr. Shock Hammers. Kinda like the CEB. We'll see how they do. Reportedly they're lower friction, can push'em pretty fast. Check'em out. https://hammerbullets.com/shop/page/11/Now, what round is more versatile than the .358 Win....? Enough options to keep a Loony entertained (out of trouble, out of jail) for quite a while.... DF
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Come to think about it I haven't been in prison since the middle of March and I have four 358 Winchesters. But I really like those things. I did retire from Corrections at the end of March. Be Well, RZ.
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DF; thanks for the link to .308 review. Very interesting. Don’t think that hog would agree. That is an interesting bullet. If I was in a lead free zone, I’d be a serious CEB customer. Sorta expensive. DF Curious, do you find the Barnes line lacking?
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DF; thanks for the link to .308 review. Very interesting. Don’t think that hog would agree. That is an interesting bullet. If I was in a lead free zone, I’d be a serious CEB customer. Sorta expensive. DF Curious, do you find the Barnes line lacking? I don't find Barnes lacking, use them, too. CEB is just another bullet to work with, see what it can do. It will expand better than a TTSX for one thing, and the ones I've shot in other rounds are as accurate.. The Hammer bullets are reported to be softer, expanding well.... I have the 180 TTSX in the line up. This gun seems to prefer lighter bullets, even with the 12 twist. So, I'll feed it lighter bullets and see what gives. A Loony's work is never done...  DF
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I traded for a .243 Pre-64 that looked pretty good until I peeked down the barrel with the Hawkeye. Very clean, but lots of pitting.. Oh well, sometimes pitted guns shoot. Well, not this one and I loaded a series of known .243 accuracy loads. I don't need a 2" .243... So, it's off to JES in Oregon for boring to .358 Winchester. The muzzle OD is .565" which when you subtract .358", leaves only .1" or so barrel wall thickness. Jes said that would be fine, so I'm sure it will be. His cost is $250 which includes return postage. Postage on my end with $750 ins was around $35 or so, ground UPS, leaving this PM to get there Monday. And he says he can get it done in a week. Now, that's pretty amazing. I've never heard of a gun he's done not shooting pretty well. So, I'm excited about a new round at half the cost of a new barrel in a light, handy rifle. Reason for going .35 cal, I don't have one. I have a 6.5 Creed, so don't need a .260. Have a 7-08, a 308, .a 338-06 so don't need to duplicate any of those calibers. That leaves the .358 by default, and wanting to leave the M-70 set up as a SA Fwt. in the original stock. I've been reading up on the .358 Win and it seems pretty versatile. It'll shoot .38 pistol bullets on up to 225 gr. rifle bullets. I know, 250's, but I'm not going there. And I have nearly every powder mentioned for that round. Will report. It's like Christmas in Aug for a Loony. I'm sure you guys understand... DF Reboring rifle barrel takes it out of proof. Is such a rifle safe to shoot w/o going through a proof house?
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Reboring rifle barrel takes it out of proof. Is such a rifle safe to shoot w/o going through a proof house?
Yes, a properly rebored rifle is safe to shoot without going through a proof house.
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I don't know of a proof house in the US. I'm sure there are some. But there is always the SAMMI standards. And one should stay within those parameters. Like CIP standards in Europe. Be Well, RZ.
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I proofed it behind my house....  If it can stand up to my reloads, it's a hoss of a gun...  It's proofed... DF
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Look what hit the door today  Sako L57 rebored from .243 to .358 , 1:12 , Barrel shortened to 20" Can't wait to run some handloads through it this weekend. ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/84BRyyz.jpg)
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Look what hit the door today Sako L57 rebored from .243 to .358 , 1:12 , Barrel shortened to 20" Can't wait to run some handloads through it this weekend. That's nice. Look forward to your report. DF
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I've mounted this VX-3i 3.5-10x40 CDS in the Warne Maxima Horizoltal Low rings. Will get another set for the 4200. Thanks, Mathman. Good suggestion. It works. I'm going to have the Bushnell 4200 3-9x40 set up for FTX 200's, maybe the 175 FTX's that Midway sold, the VX-3i for 225 gr. NPT's, NAB's and SGK's. The CDS will give me good 300 yd effectiveness. I have another scope, a Simmons Pro Hunter, 4-12x40, that I'll use for 158 JHP pistol bullets. It actually has pretty good glass for a cheap scope. Easier to swap scopes than re sight. DF ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/M2FtQwY.jpg) While the VX-3i is getting reintroduced, adjustment to the erector, so the POI actually corresponds to elevation and windage, I mounted this VX-3 1.75-6x32. It seems to work well on this gun. Yeah, the 3.5-10x40 went bonkers, is back in Oregon getting fixed. I'm getting to like this 1.75-6. It may stay. DF ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/n6vLxYA.jpg) ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/vzpKnOa.jpg)
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I have one on a Sako but can't for the life of me remember whether it is the 243 or 308. It is a great scope for the hunting I do. I'm not a turret twister. And Weagle that is a great looking barreled action but I am jaded. I live Sako. Be Well, RZ.
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I have that same scope on one of my 7x57s. I have another in a box waiting (hoping?) for Leupold to start their reticle changes once again. I had it changed to heavy duplex and don’t like it. I’d like to have it changed back to regular duplex. The one I have mounted is regular duplex and it’s perfect in my neck of the woods, although truth be told I can’t remember when it’s budged off 4x. You’ve put together a nice outfit.
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I have that same scope on one of my 7x57s. I have another in a box waiting (hoping?) for Leupold to start their reticle changes once again. I had it changed to heavy duplex and don’t like it. I’d like to have it changed back to regular duplex. The one I have mounted is regular duplex and it’s perfect in my neck of the woods, although truth be told I can’t remember when it’s budged off 4x. You’ve put together a nice outfit.
RM Thanks, Rev. The rather straight Pre-64 bolt handle requires slightly higher rings to prevent the ocular/bolt handle rubbing, causing the signature bolt handle scar. Unlike the M-700 with a more contoured bolt handle, the Pre-64 presents a challenge. On another thread, some were using the Double Dovetail and or Burris Zee rings, both look better than the Warne Horizontal I'm using. But, as I noted on that thread, the .358 Win is such a versatile round, handling such an array of loads from pistol bullets to cast to fast monos to NPT's, NAB's etc, it's nice to have the ability to swap out scopes for a specific category of ammo. The Warne set up allows that. DD's and Zee's, not so easy. Med Weavers on my gun ended up with bolt handle/ocular issues, whereas the low Warne is high enough to prevent that. Can't go with low/med, etc. You gotta try and see how each set up works. I'm not sure about the post '64 bolt handle, if it's more contoured to prevent this problem. You have Ingwe's post '64 7x57. Is that an issue? DF
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No, I have the 1.75-6 on an MRC in Talley extra lows. Same with my SC Fearherweight. No issue with bolt clearance. Ingwe’s M70 is in Warne low QDs. Mule Deer’s Kilimanjaro is in the same mounts he sent it with.
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Had JeS do one for me last year. Rem 700 243 sps is now a 18.5 “ barreled 358. Duracoated the entire action, barrel and bolt. . mitchellmountain did JES shorten your barrel and do the duracoat work as well as the rebore and rechamber? I like the idea of a 18.5" .358 Winchester!
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I just bought Winchester 358 Win brass from Natchez for $31/50 + shipping. Just a heads up for those wanting correctly stamped brass like I did when I took mine to Africa.
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