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Will you take the shot ASAP?

Will you wait a while to see if there might be adverse reactions from those that receive it early on?

Will you not take it at all?


Just curious.....

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if I get one...will wait to see the reaction first .....bob

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Head of Pfizer Research: Covid Vaccine is Female Sterilization


From 8kun notables today..

https://healthandmoneynews.wordpres...h-covid-vaccine-is-female-sterilization/

The vaccine contains a spike protein (see image) called syncytin-1, vital for the formation of human placenta in women. If the vaccine works so that we form an immune response AGAINST the spike protein, we are also training the female body to attack syncytin-1, which could lead to infertility in women of an unspecified duration.

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon request a stop of all corona vaccination studies and call for co-signing the petition

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On December 1, 2020, the ex-Pfizer head of respiratory research Dr. Michael Yeadon and the lung specialist and former head of the public health department Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg filed an application with the EMA, the European Medicine Agency responsible for EU-wide drug approval, for the immediate suspension of all SARS CoV 2 vaccine studies, in particular the BioNtech/Pfizer study on BNT162b (EudraCT number 2020-002641-42).

Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon demand that the studies – for the protection of the life and health of the volunteers – should not be continued until a study design is available that is suitable to address the significant safety concerns expressed by an increasing number of renowned scientists against the vaccine and the study design.

On the one hand, the petitioners demand that, due to the known lack of accuracy of the PCR test in a serious study, a so-called Sanger sequencing must be used. This is the only way to make reliable statements on the effectiveness of a vaccine against Covid-19. On the basis of the many different PCR tests of highly varying quality, neither the risk of disease nor a possible vaccine benefit can be determined with the necessary certainty, which is why testing the vaccine on humans is unethical per se.

Furthermore, they demand that it must be excluded, e.g. by means of animal experiments, that risks already known from previous studies, which partly originate from the nature of the corona viruses, can be realized. The concerns are directed in particular to the following points:

The formation of so-called “non-neutralizing antibodies” can lead to an exaggerated immune reaction, especially when the test person is confronted with the real, “wild” virus after vaccination. This so-called antibody-dependent amplification, ADE, has long been known from experiments with corona vaccines in cats, for example. In the course of these studies all cats that initially tolerated the vaccination well died after catching the wild virus.

The vaccinations are expected to produce antibodies against spike proteins of SARS-CoV-2. However, spike proteins also contain syncytin-homologous proteins, which are essential for the formation of the placenta in mammals such as humans. It must be absolutely ruled out that a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2 could trigger an immune reaction against syncytin-1, as otherwise infertility of indefinite duration could result in vaccinated women.

The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.

The much too short duration of the study does not allow a realistic estimation of the late effects. As in the narcolepsy cases after the swine flu vaccination, millions of healthy people would be exposed to an unacceptable risk if an emergency approval were to be granted and the possibility of observing the late effects of the vaccination were to follow. Nevertheless, BioNTech/Pfizer apparently submitted an application for emergency approval on December 1, 2020.

CALL FOR HELP: Dr. Wodarg and Dr. Yeadon ask as many EU citizens as possible to co-sign their petition by sending the e-mail prepared here to the EMA.

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They should test the vaccine on politicians. If they survive, it’s safe. If they don’t survive, we’re safe.


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Nope. Had covid, wasn't a big deal.

I'll pass on whatever Bill Gates has cooked up.

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Originally Posted by doubletap
They should test the vaccine on politicians. If they survive, it’s safe. If they don’t survive, we’re safe.

I'm hoping all the D's just jump right on it.

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YES. I worked in the pharmaceutical/biotech industry for 40+ years. My wife and I will take whichever vaccines are declared "Safe and Effective" by our FDA.


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Originally Posted by doubletap
They should test the vaccine on politicians. If they survive, it’s safe. If they don’t survive, we’re safe.



[Linked Image from cdn.abcotvs.com]

Former Presidents Barack Obama, George W. Bush and Bill Clinton are volunteering to get their Covid-19 vaccines on camera to promote public confidence in the vaccine's safety once the US Food and Drug Administration authorizes one.

The three most recent former presidents hope an awareness campaign to promote confidence in its safety and effectiveness would be a powerful message as American public health officials try to convince the public to take the vaccine.

Freddy Ford, Bush's chief of staff, told CNN that the 43rd President had reached out to Dr. Anthony Fauci -- the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the nation's top infectious disease expert -- and Dr. Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response coordinator, to see how he could help promote the vaccine.

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If everyone else gets the vaccine, I won't need it.

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Originally Posted by Natty_Bumpo
YES. I worked in the pharmaceutical/biotech industry for 40+ years. My wife and I will take whichever vaccines are declared "Safe and Effective" by our FDA.


Even though it's been rapidly pushed through the normal drug approval process?

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Originally Posted by K22
The mRNA vaccines from BioNTech/Pfizer contain polyethylene glycol (PEG). 70% of people develop antibodies against this substance – this means that many people can develop allergic, potentially fatal reactions to the vaccination.

The Moderna vaccine uses PEG as well. It is an important part of the LNP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyethylene_glycol

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I said "OUR FDA". Not England, Not EU, Russia, China, or Uzbeckastan..............LOL


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Originally Posted by Natty_Bumpo
YES. I worked in the pharmaceutical/biotech industry for 40+ years. My wife and I will take whichever vaccines are declared "Safe and Effective" by our FDA.

The more people who take it voluntarily the less reason for forced vaccination.

Given how politicized this "pandemic" has become there is no freaky way I will blindly accept FDA approval as the "gospel".

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Originally Posted by Natty_Bumpo
I said "OUR FDA". Not England, Not EU, Russia, China, or Uzbeckastan..............LOL

What's the difference.

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Originally Posted by JeffA
Will you take the shot ASAP?

Will you wait a while to see if there might be adverse reactions from those that receive it early on?

Will you not take it at all?


Just curious.....

I'm somewhere between two and three.

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Originally Posted by Natty_Bumpo
I said "OUR FDA". Not England, Not EU, Russia, China, or Uzbeckastan..............LOL


I have nothing to base a opinion on, you claim to have a lifetime of educated experience, your opinion really means something.

Do you feel the vaccine could have been shortcutted to approval or just prioritize for speed?

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I would take it today, no questions asked.

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I'd only take the Astro Zenica one.

Conventional type, not mRNA

If I take any....

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I am getting over COVID infection now and it was little more than a bad cold.

I’ll just call myself inoculated I’m good thanks.

Besides flu shots are held up as some silver bullet but seem to often get the wrong strain so not sure how this will be any different except Bill Gates and others I don’t trust seem strangely interested in my health this time around which makes me even more skeptical.

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Originally Posted by hicountry
I'd only take the Astro Zenica one.

Conventional type, not mRNA

If I take any....

AstraZeneca uses a Viral Vector to deliver the COVID DNA into your cells. This is not a "conventional vaccine."

A "conventional vaccine" injects dead viral protein into your bloodstream. Viral vector and mRNA vaccines both induce your body to produce the viral proteins. Viral Vector vaccines do not use a PEG formulated LNP which is good.

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