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Yep. Anderson uses the same advertising---"we make parts for name brand guns that we can't name the brand of". I never believed them, either.
The internet is filled with threads about "what's the cheapest I can buy/build an AR. There are always hundreds of responses, most saying "parts is parts". Then when someone like Antelope Sniper posts a thread about AR bolt failures, it's soon on page 2 with only 6 responses. People don't want to hear that. Their most common "excuse" is "it's just a range toy". Sorry, that's not what AR's are for.

DoubleStar ACE Entry Skeleton Stock, Really short. I added a 1" pad and going to make a spacer too. On another rig now.


Not everyone needs a $1000 or $2000 AR build. Big fuucking deal if something in it breaks someday. Buy another. Just like I don't need an $80000 pickup or $300 skinning knife.

My only experience with BCA is with a 9 mm barrel and forearm that we got to build my son's AR-9. I would have no issue buying another 9mm barrel from them. The accuracy of that AR-9 exceeded my expectations.

Son also got a glock-19 threaded barrel from them, but has yet to shoot it. It fits perfect and the machining was actually better than what I expected.

Different strokes.

My Daddy always told me that mud wrestling with a pig was a losing proposition..............you just get muddy & the pig loves it.

That about sums up this thread.

But y'all buy all them BCA's & Radical Arms stuff you want........................but please, don't piss down my neck & try to tell me it's raining.

MM

Just gonna say the “parts is parts” line came from the late Pat Rogers and he said it with a large dose of sarcasm. I’ve repeated it here with the same sarcasm and it amazes me how many believe “parts is parts”.

There are quality top tier guns that cost less than some well known boutique guns but quality is never cheap.

Price is what you pay, value is what you get.

Yes. One young lady shot one deer with a BCA product. I'm not sure what evidence I can give you to refute that obvious evidence of their overwhelming quality.

THIS is why BCA can pump out parts like they do.

50% of this sample size came apart and had to be screwed back together again and what does BCA get from that? Compliments on their customer service.

That 50% is pretty close to the overall rate of problems with their products.

Ok. So, anyone who has had positive actual first hand experience ain't worthy you are saying? Gotcha.

Nobody here has stated, part is parts, on this thread. But, some have said, it has worked plenty good enough for them. Big fuucking deal if someone wants a $500 AR and someone else wants to buy a $400 barrel and $200 trigger.


This was all perfectly predictable.

My son came into one of their uppers in .458 SOCOM. That my grandsons have not been able to wear it out yet has not been from lack of trying. Would I want it as a serious defense arm? No, but that’s not what he’s got it for. He’s got it for the kids to blast stuff in the backyard: steel plates, tin cans, tannerite bombs, etc. I think that’s a real legitimate use for a cheap upper. When the stuff breaks they learn to fix it. He got the youngest kid a PSA kit for a few hundred bucks last year and the boy learned how to put an AR together in a few nights after school. For that purpose it would make no sense to me to take the time and spend the money for all the latest highly regarded components to build a super AR. Let kids be kids.

Cra,

Keep a close eye on the bolt around 500 rounds. BCA's rather infamous for improper heat treatment, so check the dimensions of your pivot pin hole and make sure signs of egging and stretching.

Ok so if BCA is schidt or maybe 50%, what is a reasonable alternative? Wait until the market settles on them and pick up something else better then?

I'm not kicking in doors and clearing rooms. I'm also realistic in that if I ever had to defend my life with an AR that it has really hit the fan and I'm probably way in over my head anyway. Probably best for me to have my Benelli at my shoulder at that point. I already have one AR, Aero lower and upper with Black Hole Weaponry barrel. It goes bang when I pull the trigger. Just looking to piece something together reasonably so both my boys will have ARs in the event they ever do get banned again.

On a budget, today, here's what I would do:

FN made CHF chrome lined barrel:

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...assic-ar15-upper-assembly-no-bcg-ch.html

Premium BCG, best I can tell they are rebranded Tool Craft:

https://palmettostatearmory.com/pal...m-full-auto-bolt-carrier-group-8779.html

I saw complete SOLGW 16" rifles for $1200 this morning. If PSA uppers are $600 that seems like. a no-brainer to me.

I'd also recommend looking at Rock River - they have decent entry level uppers.

Yes, I complimented them on their CS. I’m sure they’ve had a [bleep] ton of complaints and are professionals at it, just like Vortex. I can honestly say, they were the fastest company to respond to me for any one I have ever contacted. The only other gun related company I’ve had customer experience to that quick and responsive was TC about 15 years ago. People want to bitch and groan about lousy CS, and I pay a compliment to one and the world comes to an end according to some.

LOL! Now you know how Democrats get elected!

Like I used to tell people when they said cheap guns were good because they had a good warranty--"guns don't always break on the range and your lifetime warranty just got a lot shorter".

Where?