Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Bear Creek Arsenal

It looks great from where I’m sitting!

And I’m sitting here with $750 and $900 Colts cause I didn’t wait until they were in high demand before I thought I needed one. I even bought another Kimber Montana last week so as not to hustle you out of your chance at a H&R Topper.

Yah, a couple of those couldn't be a bad move.

Should I bring up budget Ar-10s? LOL

“ Surely one can piece together or buy a reliable AR for under $1k even in these times.”

But to answer this question, yes you can and I did.
I found a Daniel Defense 14.5” mid length barrel. These are gassed right and have minimal dwell time so they shoot very soft. I put Magpul SL hand guards on it cause I like utility. Bought an Aero upper, lower and LPK. Bought a Colt RE along with their castle nut and end plate. Magpul grip and stock, DD A1.5 rear sight cause I like them. I did splurge on a Geissele trigger but I already had it.

Oh and it shoots really well

Exactly my point. Plenty around here that think that you need to spend $1500 or more in todays market to get a reliable AR. For many of us and myself included, middle of the road is fine for the intended use. My purpose in the initial post was to find out if BCA (or others similarly priced) was a decent cheap option for a flat top carbine length AR. I have in fact owned several RARs, Axis, TC, 700 ADLs, etc and never an issue with any of them for their intended purpose.

I have another built with Aero made upper and lower and a Blackhole Weaponry barrel that does all I need to do. This purchase would be to fit on a spare complete lower that I have, registered as other so it could be made into a pistol if I wanted to do so. Havent given that route much thought though since if the braces are banned in the future I have no desire to have an AR with just a pistol tube. I suppose it could be converted back to a rifle though but I'm not real clear on the legalities of that rodeo. If this was a gun I intended to take into battle, cost would be very low on priority, but its not and therefore cost is a concern. If I could source good components easily for around 5 bills I would just have my buddy help build my upper. Parts availability is a concern right now though.

TWR,

Have you ever broke an inch with 5 shot groups with it?
I've shot several. They would all do an inch and a half, but I've yet to break an inch with one.

I haven’t shot this one further than 50 yards yet, irons and a red dot off hand is about it.

I don't think many here believe that at all..................but there's a BIG difference in building a good, solid, plain jane, no frills AR for well under a grand vs a POS BCA rifle for whatever they sell for today.

YMMV

MM

Not directed at anyone. Been good advice here. I don't don't think it really matters what other's do, but, advice can be given without condescension. I'd much rather see someone get something than nothing, as long as he ain't guilt tripping anyone else for it's failures. No, not pissing money away on a disposable item but No fuucker I ever heard of went into something dirt cheap thinking he's getting gold. To some, the difference between $400 upper and a $700 upper is a deal breaker - possibly - current realities vs what deals someone stumbled into some time ago, vs something considered dead nuts reliable by one guy vs what might work for the other guy's needs just fine. It's all good, better get what ya can while ya can.. Another whatever. But, yes, BCA ain't even mid-tier, got it. Again, the guy's opinion on them that led me to try BCA still means more to me than someone saying it ain't top gear (no chit) that has not owned one. I didn't want, for my first AR, a BCA, Delton, Olympic and got an FN15 but I sure as hell don't need to talk down to the guy that did. Not every AR is a SHTF proposition for everyone. Carry-on.


I can't afford a SCAR, so I have a S&W M&P10 Sport 308 on layaway. Oh well, it's possible now, whereas others simply are not. Should have jumped on a bunch of stuff a year and a half ago when living was easy. Best to diversify it looks like.

Name even one person who said that.

And BTW, here ya go for $949.

https://shooterschoicesc.com/produc...arrel-magpul-rear-flip-up#product_detail

That’s a dynamite set up for 1K Great company top quality stuff......

Was just looking at that. Wow.

Since I'm uninformed, what is so great about this particular gun? Is it the barrel? BCG? The furniture is as basic as it comes, nothing wrong with that, but it is basic.

It's a combination of quality parts assembled by a reputable company with a good quality history, Sons of Liberty Gun Works.

Yes, parts are just basic, not fancy, but things don't have to be fancy to get solid, reliable performance.

But it's not a high precision rifle either, but likely a solid, everyday, shoot all ammo, 1.5-2" gun.

MM

These guys take no shortcuts when it comes to the quality of the components they use, nor their QC.

It took a bit of searching to find the specs, but worth the effort if you want. Looks like they went with "couldn't be done better" on each and every functional part. It's a Sons of Liberty Gun Works Loyal 9 (iirc.)

The biggest thing for me is their transparency. They're willing to tell you everything. Where they source their barrels, BCGs, lowers, rails...they've revealed it all.

They also state the tolerances those products are produced to. We all know what their gas port sizes are. We even know what steel they use for their firing pin retainer.

They publish their in-house QC process.

And they're rabidly pro-gun.

https://sonsoflibertygw.com/shop/lo...e-sl-handguard-liberty-fighting-trigger/

They guarantee every part of their rifles for life. Burn out a barrel, they'll replace it. LE officer uses one in the line of duty and it's taken for evidence, they'll replace it.

Sounds like an awesome company.



$500 build kit today. Not their premium.
https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa...8-phosphate-classic-rifle-kit-black.html

Thanks for the info and explanation. Not being into ARs I had never heard of them but they sound like a fantastic company.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GZxC07B2jYY

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jia0gmtsQxE&feature=youtu.be

Two good videos, at least I think, on their AR platform. Full Auto :-)