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I know you guys have done a lot of work with the 9.3. Have you done anything with the 36 Nosler? That's always been the most interesting to me of all the SAAMI Nosler chamberings.
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JMH3 I haven't done anything yet. Looks interesting. Charlie
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jmh3,
As far as I know, Nosler hasn't produced any ammo or rifles for the .36.
I happened across it one day while looking up some other stuff on the SAAMI website. I e-mailed the guy in charge of writer stuff at Nosler, and he said they decided to push it through the SAAMI approval process while submitting some other rounds--just in case they ever did decide to produce it.
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jmh3,
As far as I know, Nosler hasn't produced any ammo or rifles for the .36.
I happened across it one day while looking up some other stuff on the SAAMI website. I e-mailed the guy in charge of writer stuff at Nosler, and he said they decided to push it through the SAAMI approval process while submitting some other rounds--just in case they ever did decide to produce it. That's what they told me as well. I was wondering if Charlie had built one or had a chamber reamer. There is some head stamped brass available so a custom builder somewhere must be building for it. I'd be interested in a build.
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I’m not exactly sure which case this is based on. But either way, it looks like launching a 250 grainer about 2850 or a 286 at 2700. Thats a hoss ! Charlie
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I’m not exactly sure which case this is based on. But either way, it looks like launching a 250 grainer about 2850 or a 286 at 2700. Thats a hoss ! Charlie Necked to 35 caliber interests me
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Interesting to see if they put it into production and what the ballistics will be.
Back in the 90's before he died my father developed a couple wildcats based on the 416 Rigby case cut down to 2.5" and necked to .338 and .35 caliber (.375 and .458 were in the works but never finished). He had Ray Montgomery in Grand Junction, CO. build up several actions and one complete rifle, the .35 he called .358 G&G both on Enfield actions (Winchester and Eddystone).
He claimed the .35 could send a 250 gr. bullet maxed at 3200 fps over his chronograph. I have no idea how safe that was and when I shot the rifle after his death I downloaded to what I guesstimated to be about 2900 fps with Nosler Partitions(didn't have a chrony at the time). If Nosler even gets close to that would be pretty cool and with the heavier bullets available they'll have a real stomper for standard length actions.
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My buddy has two 9.3x64's, one on a Winchester "Classic Stainless" action. Years ago we were at the range and he was shooting I believe 286 grain Barnes X bullets through the pine box bullet tester he made up. I mean shooting through it, never stopped one of those big X bullets and it flattened a brown bear at about 40 feet. I bet it did.
Would that 9.3x64 be like a 36 Nosler?
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My buddy has two 9.3x64's, one on a Winchester "Classic Stainless" action. Years ago we were at the range and he was shooting I believe 286 grain Barnes X bullets through the pine box bullet tester he made up. I mean shooting through it, never stopped one of those big X bullets and it flattened a brown bear at about 40 feet. I bet it did.
Would that 9.3x64 be like a 36 Nosler? It's interesting you say that, I read the thread title and it was the first cartridge that came to mind.
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You don’t have to hot rod a 9.3, just put it in the right spot. That’s why it’s a survivor. They all work.
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I’m actually trying to figure out what to have built. I have a moose hunt booked for 2023 and am working on brown bear for a year or two after and wanted an all around stainless/synthetic medium bore. I have a 375 H&H but it’s a blued, walnut safari rifle. I was originally thinking .358 Norma but when I saw Nosler had a 9.3 standardized and there were reamers and brass available I thought I’d ask. I have various .300 and .338 and I know they will work just fine, but part of the fun of what will be once in a lifetime hunts for me is getting a new rifle a few years ahead and working up loads and practicing.
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A 9.3x62?
Be something new without necessarily being too brutal for practice.
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A 9.3x62?
Be something new without necessarily being too brutal for practice. Great cartridge. Thought about that and Whelen. Perfect for moose. Wasn’t sure about big bears at any kind of distance. I could always load light for practice in something heavier.
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but part of the fun of what will be once in a lifetime hunts for me is getting a new rifle a few years ahead and working up loads and practicing. Well then you better build that Whelen on an 03' Springfield action or the 9.3 on a M98 Mauser.
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I’m not exactly sure which case this is based on. But either way, it looks like launching a 250 grainer about 2850 or a 286 at 2700. Thats a hoss ! Charlie Necked to 35 caliber interests me jwp, Nosler also had the 35 Nosler accepted by SAAMI at the same time, which is the same basic case. Both the 35 and 36 Noslers are based on the case of Nosler's original beltless magnum, the 26--though with modifications, such as a slightly shorter body and longer neck, I would guess to hold the bigger bullets more firmly against the increased recoil.
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As y’all know I dearly love my 9.3 Sisk (8mmRem mag case), the most useful wildcat in 9.3 I have ever made was necking the 338 Win mag to 9.3. Not very sexy, but a good balance between performance and recoil. Charlie
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I’m not exactly sure which case this is based on. But either way, it looks like launching a 250 grainer about 2850 or a 286 at 2700. Thats a hoss ! Charlie Necked to 35 caliber interests me jwp, Nosler also had the 35 Nosler accepted by SAAMI at the same time, which is the same basic case. Both the 35 and 36 Noslers are based on the case of Nosler's original beltless magnum, the 26--though with modifications, such as a slightly shorter body and longer neck, I would guess to hold the bigger bullets more firmly against the increased recoil. Any idea if 33 Nosler would just be a pass through an expander mandrel to make the 35 John? Or if there were other changes?
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Dunno.The case dimensions for both the 35 and 36 Nosler (and of course the 33) are on the SAAMI website, which is pretty easy to navigate. Or at least it is for me! Started using it when the SAAMI specifications book a powder company gave me around 20 years ago became semi-obsolete....
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Thanks John. They look similar enough to me that you could neck the 33 up and get off to the races. I like the 35 Newton but it is a pain trimming the 375 Ruger cases after forming.
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