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West Virginia was at the very bottom of the list in the nation last summer until........ ........ until POTUS was VERY generous with our tax $ and slave labour of the future generations. He signed the biggest legislative steal in all of history. Talk about socialism. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not just fed up with the election scandals, but also the NEOcon RINO hypocrisy. As a result of said hypocrisy and socialist THEFT, WV went from the lowest to the HIGHEST per capita literally overnight. The institutions now get $147,000.00++ per PATIENT!
This led to the evil incentive for hospitals to share nursing home patients to assure a higher death rate of innocent old folks, heart and diabetics. .....at the toon of $147,000++ per soul. Organized murder on a high scale thanks to DJT AND THE SWAMP.
God have mercy on the souls of all of those victims.
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Mrs tzone is on the fence about being a test project on the first run. But will probably have to at some point.
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Camp is where you make it.
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If a person is under 70 and has no comorbidity issues the COVID mortality rate is very, very low...on par with the common cold or influenza. Thanks for enlightening me there Dr Magnum. Oddly enough though, I personally know of 2 under 70 that have died. Neither had other health issues. Another friends father is in the hospital now on a ventilator and not doing well at all. Have had 2 co-workers hospitalized, one in his mid 40's, other mid 50's. Thats 5 people that I personally know that have died or been seriously ill in just the past few months. I don't know anyone ever being hospitalized or dying from the common cold or the flu. We lost a wonderful young man this past week. Luke Letlow, Congressman elect from LA, to be sworn in next week. Got the 'Rona, was in the hospital in Monroe, then transfered to LSU teaching hospital in Shreveport, then in ICU, then in trouble. Reportedly he had an MI that was COVID related. The big, University Hospital in Shreveport is probaly as good a place as he could have been. So, I know he got state of the art care. Covid can cause weird stuff, like an intense vasculitis and also clotting issues, which probably led to his fatal MI. And that's separate from the Cytokine storm that usually takes'em out at the end. So, you have light or even asymtomatic cases, then catestropic cases like this. Luke was 41, in the prime of his life, in great shape, leaves a wife and two young children. And, he was a staunch conservative. We can't afford to lose guys like him. DF
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Lots of illegal immigrants are refusing it too. Who do you think spread it everywhere? Cleaning crews n packing plants. Me no halbla, tikki tok tok....no TP for bunghole.
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If a person is under 70 and has no comorbidity issues the COVID mortality rate is very, very low...on par with the common cold or influenza. Thanks for enlightening me there Dr Magnum. Oddly enough though, I personally know of 2 under 70 that have died. Neither had other health issues. Another friends father is in the hospital now on a ventilator and not doing well at all. Have had 2 co-workers hospitalized, one in his mid 40's, other mid 50's. Thats 5 people that I personally know that have died or been seriously ill in just the past few months. I don't know anyone ever being hospitalized or dying from the common cold or the flu. OK...5 out of approximately 330,000,000 people in our country. You certainly have a great sample. I am not the one that came to that conclusion. It was the CDC.
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I’d take it today if I could.
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I'd nuke the fuggin Chinks if I could.
I sure as hell aint getting their vaccine for their fuggin man made germ...
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Organized murder on a high scale thanks to DJT AND THE SWAMP.
God have mercy on the souls of all of those victims. You don’t sound very happy.
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Our daughter in law is a pharmacist at our local hospital. She has PhD’s in both biology and pharmacy. She knows her stuff, and has no plans on taking the shot. I want to add that she is in no way a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist about things such as this.
However she does have very strong feelings against this immunization because it entails altering our DNA for it to work. She doesn’t want that, especially since she may bless us with more grandchildren in the future. She explained it to me at a level I vaguely understood, referencing my old classes in genetics, biology and chemistry back in college.
In ten words or less they genetically alter “messenger RNA” and inject that, along with other things, into your bloodstream. That genetically altered mRNA then alters YOUR RNA/DNA to effectively combat covid. Sounds good, straight out of Star Trek right? The kicker is your DNA is altered forever.......you have children later on, their DNA is altered as well from the “original blueprint “ so to speak....and on and on if her children bear children in the future. She doesn’t like that idea at all, adding that we are, effectively, the guinea pigs for this.....we currently have no idea how it will turn out. Heavy stuff indeed and worth thinking about. Of course, I won’t be affected since I’m not making babies anymore, so it’s a moot point with me but not so for others.
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Our daughter in law is a pharmacist at our local hospital. She has PhD’s in both biology and pharmacy. She knows her stuff, and has no plans on taking the shot. I want to add that she is in no way a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist about things such as this.
However she does have very strong feelings against this immunization because it entails altering our DNA for it to work. She doesn’t want that, especially since she may bless us with more grandchildren in the future. She explained it to me at a level I vaguely understood, referencing my old classes in genetics, biology and chemistry back in college.
In ten words or less they genetically alter “messenger RNA” and inject that, along with other things, into your bloodstream. That genetically altered mRNA then alters YOUR RNA/DNA to effectively combat covid. Sounds good, straight out of Star Trek right? The kicker is your DNA is altered forever.......you have children later on, their DNA is altered as well from the “original blueprint “ so to speak....and on and on if her children bear children in the future. She doesn’t like that idea at all, adding that we are, effectively, the guinea pigs for this.....we currently have no idea how it will turn out. Heavy stuff indeed and worth thinking about. Of course, I won’t be affected since I’m not making babies anymore, so it’s a moot point with me but not so for others. Precisely.
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Our daughter in law is a pharmacist at our local hospital. She has PhD’s in both biology and pharmacy. She knows her stuff, and has no plans on taking the shot. I want to add that she is in no way a tin foil wearing conspiracy theorist about things such as this.
However she does have very strong feelings against this immunization because it entails altering our DNA for it to work. She doesn’t want that, especially since she may bless us with more grandchildren in the future. She explained it to me at a level I vaguely understood, referencing my old classes in genetics, biology and chemistry back in college.
In ten words or less they genetically alter “messenger RNA” and inject that, along with other things, into your bloodstream. That genetically altered mRNA then alters YOUR RNA/DNA to effectively combat covid. Sounds good, straight out of Star Trek right? The kicker is your DNA is altered forever.......you have children later on, their DNA is altered as well from the “original blueprint “ so to speak....and on and on if her children bear children in the future. She doesn’t like that idea at all, adding that we are, effectively, the guinea pigs for this.....we currently have no idea how it will turn out. Heavy stuff indeed and worth thinking about. Of course, I won’t be affected since I’m not making babies anymore, so it’s a moot point with me but not so for others. If your daughter told you that, she should seek a refund for her PhD. Transcription/translation are one way streets. mRNA is copied from DNA, but the reverse does not occur. mRNA never even enters the nucleus of the cell. That's high school biology. IT DOES NOT ALTER YOUR GENES!! Also, viruses infect your cells by injecting them with their mRNA (assuming it's an mRNA virus). Why do people think that an mRNA vaccine alters their genes, but infection leading to "natural immunity" working in the same way does not?
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The CDC says the mRNA from the vaccine never enters the nucleus of the cell and does not affect or interact with a person’s DNA.
Every day on this side of the ground is a win.
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To be frank I am surprised the companies haven't put it in a lubricant solution so they can force it in anally.
These are my opinions, feel free to disagree.
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I’d take it today if I could. Why?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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If you are at risk or take care of someone at risk, the shot is probably a good idea. If not, you’re probably fine to wait. Probably.
I’m waiting. We’ve had few hospital employees actually catch it at work, and only one bad outcome, who had co morbidities. I don’t feel particularly at risk, even though the chance is there.
I wouldn’t take the flu shot if it wasn’t mandatory for work.
Don't just be a survivor, be a competitor.
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One of the guys I work with is early 40s, in good shape, no health problems known. Been on max oxygen in a hospital for 11 days. One of the unlucky ones. I am older,fatter, and not as good shape have had pneumonia more than once. I am taking the vaccine as soon as I can. My employer is probably going to require it anyway.
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One of the guys I work with is early 40s, in good shape, no health problems known. Been on max oxygen in a hospital for 11 days. One of the unlucky ones. I am older,fatter, and not as good shape have had pneumonia more than once. I am taking the vaccine as soon as I can. My employer is probably going to require it anyway. Reports that those that have taken the vaccine later tested positive, OHHHHH My God, Now What.
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a welfare check, a forty ounce malt liquor, a crack pipe, an Obama phone, free health insurance. and some Air Jordan's and he votes Democrat for a lifetime.
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One of the guys I work with is early 40s, in good shape, no health problems known. Been on max oxygen in a hospital for 11 days. One of the unlucky ones. I am older,fatter, and not as good shape have had pneumonia more than once. I am taking the vaccine as soon as I can. My employer is probably going to require it anyway.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I haven't read all 8 pages but how many aren't getting the vaccine because they've already had Covid. They were one of the hardest hit groups when this first hit back in the Spring.
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i'm all for old folks taking it if they want to, and young folks not taking it if they don't
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