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Well, if I am reading this 3 day old news story correctly, Misty is still fighting and failing.

Attorney General declines to define "shooting range" with respect to local issue
Tue, 12/29/2020

State Attorney General Ashley Moody declined to give a legal opinion to the Hernando County Attorney’s Office on whether Hernando County should enforce noise ordinances on persons using firearms on non-commercial property.
The opinion stems from a citizen complaint in June of 2020. An email was sent to Commissioner John Allocco regarding a neighbor’s concern of the owner of 12056 Eakin Street and their guests using the property as a non-commercial shooting range. Citing noise and safety concerns, Misty Cintron reached out to Allocco with the hope that the practice would be ceased through application of the Hernando County Noise Ordinance.
However, according to Florida Statute 790.33, local government is preempted from enforcing the county noise ordinance as part of the regulations “pertaining to the whole field of firearms.”
The language within the statute consistently uses the phrase “sports shooting range” to define a large outdoor area where the discharge of firearms may be permitted, however does not define whether that area needs to be a commercial business or if the term applies to private property. The zoning of the 5 acre property on 12056 Eakin Street is currently Agricultural and Residential.
Taking the state law and local concern into consideration, Deputy County Attorney Jon Jouben requested Board of County Commissioners (BOCC) consent to direct the staff to send a letter to the Attorney General requesting guidance as to whether the statutory definition of the Noise Ordinance is limited to commercial sport shooting ranges.
The following response, dated November 9, 2020 was sent from AG Moody’s office:
“Upon reviewing the information you have submitted, this office must decline to comment on this matter. With respect to the County’s question regarding the definition of a “sport shooting range” as set forth in section 823.16(l)(c), Florida Statutes, and whether section 730.330), Florida Statutes, precludes enforcement of its “generally applicable” noise regulation ordinance, these inquiries present mixed questions of fact and law, which opinions of this office are not intended to address.
“We regret that we are unable to comment further. I trust you will understand that the inability of the Attorney General to address your questions does not stem from a lack of concern.”

https://www.hernandosun.com/article...efine-shooting-range-respect-local-issue


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Anyone here recall the woman that was killed by a 303 ricochet off the water in New York? - I think it happened in the late 1960s. The woman was a mile from where the rifle was fired.


Pretty sure that happened off the coast of California, I recall reading about it in one of my Grandad’s Readers Digests when I was a kid in England 50+ years ago.

A guy in a boat said he was shooting at a shark, surplus .303 Enfield. The woman in question was driving a convertible, bullet struck her behind the ear such that the cause of death wasn’t immediately obvious.

IIRC

Pretty cool the shooting range lady herself chimed in on this thread.


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I don't care to re-read all 28 pages of this issue so I'll post from memory.

If some grammatically challenged buck sergeant who failed to get promoted after 20 years complains I said something he doesn't agree with, or some self styled sniper maintains that the Army did not ask for civilian volunteers through CMP to teach them how to shoot, I apologize in advance for anything I might not remember correctly.

IIRC, though, the shooter's property was 5 acres and borders on a residential area directly downrange. The governments have washed their hands about enforcing any noise ordance.

Well then, the thing to do would be for Misty and the neighbors to set up their own rifle range, pointed down range directly at the shooter's property. They could set off LOUD rounds at various times, such as whenever the shooter was firing, or 6:00 AM in the morning, or both. A round or two might even ricochet into the shooter's roof, or front yard at least. The local government might then enact a law eliminating firearms discharges outside.

An infringement on the Second Amendment? Oh, boo, hoo, hoo. I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms, even though many properties are 5 acres. Deer hunting is allowed if you have 5 acres and use a bow. From 20 minutes to an hour from here, there are 200 and 300 yard rifle ranges, two shotgun clubs, and an indoor range. (The indoor pistol range is 5 minutes away.)


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.


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50 BMG wakes up the neighborhood, met a friend at a local range as he wanted to shoot some steel with my BMG. Nearest house is like 75 yards away from the range, range was there for 60 some years. Well he was shooting my 50, next thing to state troopers pulled in because they had a noise complaint, WOW. Funny thing after talking with the troopers I asked if they wanted a try. Both of them let a few fly down range. Moral to the story don't build a house next to a gun range if you don't like noise

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Just curious if anyone put Misty in the Most Wanted to See Naked list... laugh


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Just curious if anyone put Misty in the Most Wanted to See Naked list... laugh



You know you did........Don't lie.


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Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


Nobody's trying to shove anything off on anyone else. The shooter may have moved to where shooting is allowed but he didn't move to where reckless endangerment is allowed. The berm picture originally posted, unless it has been modified, is not sufficient to stop bullets from leaving the shooter's property.

Or...if noise is allowed, why not "fight fire with fire?"

BTW: I don't say "baaa baaa baaa." Billy goats say that. You seem to be infatuated with goats.


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


Nobody's trying to shove anything off on anyone else. The shooter may have moved to where shooting is allowed but he didn't move to where reckless endangerment is allowed. The berm picture originally posted, unless it has been modified, is not sufficient to stop bullets from leaving the shooter's property.

Or...if noise is allowed, why not "fight fire with fire?"

BTW: I don't say "baaa baaa baaa." Billy goats say that. You seem to be infatuated with goats.


lol the suburbanite can't even distinguish between a goat and a sheep. Surprising.......

Go turn on your sprinklers and waive at the neighbor on each side of you who can see you out their kitchen windows. Probably can't even piss in your own yard. lmao


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Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


Nobody's trying to shove anything off on anyone else. The shooter may have moved to where shooting is allowed but he didn't move to where reckless endangerment is allowed. The berm picture originally posted, unless it has been modified, is not sufficient to stop bullets from leaving the shooter's property.

Or...if noise is allowed, why not "fight fire with fire?"

BTW: I don't say "baaa baaa baaa." Billy goats say that. You seem to be infatuated with goats.


lol the suburbanite can't even distinguish between a goat and a sheep. Surprising.......

Go turn on your sprinklers and waive at the neighbor on each side of you who can see you out their kitchen windows. Probably can't even piss in your own yard. lmao

I'm certain willie goat here is real familiar with both goat and sheep... 'Not 'Surprising' LOL


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Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


Nobody's trying to shove anything off on anyone else. The shooter may have moved to where shooting is allowed but he didn't move to where reckless endangerment is allowed. The berm picture originally posted, unless it has been modified, is not sufficient to stop bullets from leaving the shooter's property.

Or...if noise is allowed, why not "fight fire with fire?"

BTW: I don't say "baaa baaa baaa." Billy goats say that. You seem to be infatuated with goats.



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Originally Posted by GRIZZ
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
Originally Posted by BillyGoatGruff
Originally Posted by 12344mag
Originally Posted by IndyCA35
I live in a suburb where it is illegal to discharge firearms,


That was your choice don't try to shove it off on anyone else.

He made the choice to move to an area that allowed shooting, now a neighbor doesn't like it, to damn bad.

That said he had better make sure that the berm is sufficient to stop any strays, that's his only responsibility to anyone else.

You can tell by Misty's story that she's pissed off about the noise mostly and just using the safety aspect as an excuse. Anyone who doesn't get that is a dunce.



Yup.

baaaa baaaa baaaa says the suburbanite lol


Nobody's trying to shove anything off on anyone else. The shooter may have moved to where shooting is allowed but he didn't move to where reckless endangerment is allowed. The berm picture originally posted, unless it has been modified, is not sufficient to stop bullets from leaving the shooter's property.

Or...if noise is allowed, why not "fight fire with fire?"

BTW: I don't say "baaa baaa baaa." Billy goats say that. You seem to be infatuated with goats.


lol the suburbanite can't even distinguish between a goat and a sheep. Surprising.......

Go turn on your sprinklers and waive at the neighbor on each side of you who can see you out their kitchen windows. Probably can't even piss in your own yard. lmao

I'm certain willie goat here is real familiar with both goat and sheep... 'Not 'Surprising' LOL



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Awe go piss in your yard or something...Prolly chit in you own yard too. What, your double wide didn't even come with a head either?


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Originally Posted by Kenneth
She has legitimate points, I'd be nervous too,

The noise, the safety issue, and her property value will take a serious hit.

"if it's so safe, why didn't he build it pointed towards his house"......

Hard to argue that fact.



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Originally Posted by gemby58
Moral to the story don't build a house next to a gun range if you don't like noise


That's pretty much what is going on.

Misty bought a deeply discounted building lot down a dirt road in the middle some sandy scrub oak terrain backed up to a development of larger multi-use parcels. There is lots of that around that area, it can come cheap. You can pay 50 to $100K for a building lot in a more desirable location there, Misty's lot was $12K.

It's a lot like buying a lot bordering a airport then complaing about the noise and safety issues involved.

As she try's to gain sympathy and support for her cause, those in the area are well aware of the facts surrounding her situation.

She's just a transplanted city dweller that thought she'd outsmarted everyone by purchasing a cheap piece of land to build her home on.


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