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You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own...
"An analysis by two prominent law professors published before the election concluded that if Electoral College votes remain in dispute after they are counted in Congress, the vice president, as presiding officer of the joint session, could choose not to allow certain disputed votes." LinkDo you happen to know if Juliani, Lin Wood and Kraken Powell agree with those profs.?
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
Overwhelming proof of massive election fraud in support of the deep state's candidate and against Trump. You'd have to be blind not to see it. You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own. He can't do it! The House and the Senate can do something but the sitting VP cannot. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I am in no way happy about what is happening, but the VP is powerless right now. I challenge you or anyone else to show me where in the Constitution or any federal regulation any statute that gives the VP the authority you want him to wield. You can't do it can you? My understanding is he simply needs to send it back to the states and the state legislators want to de-certify Your "understanding" is incorrect.
You get out of life what you are willing to accept. If you ain't happy, do something about it!
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
Overwhelming proof of massive election fraud in support of the deep state's candidate and against Trump. You'd have to be blind not to see it. You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own. He can't do it! The House and the Senate can do something but the sitting VP cannot. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I am in no way happy about what is happening, but the VP is powerless right now. I challenge you or anyone else to show me where in the Constitution or any federal regulation any statute that gives the VP the authority you want him to wield. You can't do it can you? My understanding is he simply needs to send it back to the states and the state legislators want to de-certify Your "understanding" is incorrect. can't be, that would be the first time this year LOL
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
Overwhelming proof of massive election fraud in support of the deep state's candidate and against Trump. You'd have to be blind not to see it. You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own. He can't do it! The House and the Senate can do something but the sitting VP cannot. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I am in no way happy about what is happening, but the VP is powerless right now. I challenge you or anyone else to show me where in the Constitution or any federal regulation any statute that gives the VP the authority you want him to wield. You can't do it can you? "An analysis by two prominent law professors published before the election concluded that if Electoral College votes remain in dispute after they are counted in Congress, the vice president, as presiding officer of the joint session, could choose not to allow certain disputed votes." LinkThat is AFTER congress disputes and and fails to resolve it in such a manner that nobody gets 270 electoral votes. In that case the 12th amendment kicks in. Now I want you to listen very carefully: THE VP DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO ANYTHING ON HIS OWN. IT IS UP TO CONGRESS TO DECIDE WHAT TO DO AND THEN THE VP MUST ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS SET FORTH IN THE U.S. CONSTITUTION.You need to take a few minutes and try to educate yourself.
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The only way the VP has any real authority here is if dualing electors were submitted, NONE WHERE Several states played to it and "elected" slates, but that was not official and not submitted to Congress. IF they were, Pence then would be able to pick which he wanted to count. since there are none, he's stuck.
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I never had a doubt....................... So much for "The Plan". Always a good idea to get the buy-in of the players before the game begins. MM
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The only way the VP has any real authority here is if dualing electors were submitted, NONE WHERE Several states played to it and "elected" slates, but that was not official and not submitted to Congress. IF they were, Pence then would be able to pick which he wanted to count. since there are none, he's stuck.
Pence isn't and never was going to do [bleep]. The sooner you fools realize that, the better.
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Pence may now regret his words.
"Those that think they know everything are annoying those of us that have Google." - Dr. D. Edward Wilkinson
Note to self: Never ask an old Fogey how he is doing today.
Revised note to self: Keep it short when someone asks how I am doing.
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Friends, your country is fuqked. Because of Trumps claims from months, even a couple years ago the election will be rigged. And claims after the election claims that it was rigged. Yet while he was in power the whole time he couldn't do anything to change it? Or at least find a morsel of hard evidence? I keep looking for a evidence that the Dems didn't win all I get told is I'm blind, everyone knows, here it is on this extremist site's link etc etc. I can't believe my best friends and neighbors have slipped in to the territory of a 3rd world country over the claims of one man simply because he lost an election. I wish you all the best. I hope there's enough pieces to rebuild from. Peace out. Peace out my ass. You're out of your mind. Where was the peace when democrat operatives burned buildings and took over cities, they spit on officers and attacked them with deadly weapons. But they were "peaceful protestors". [bleep] you. Take back your own country. When you are armed you will be free. Until then you are a subject. I will not be a subject. The election was rigged, from social media icons denying free speech to expose illegal operations by and within the family of a presidential candidate. Medial that supported packing ballot boxes with falsely acquired ballots. State governors and judges that changed election laws in the middle of an election acting outside their constitutionally delegated rights. ILLEGAL VOTES. FALSE VOTES. So [bleep] you and your socialist government feeding you piglets from the tit of it's choice.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version)
"And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
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But but Qanon said!........
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
Overwhelming proof of massive election fraud in support of the deep state's candidate and against Trump. You'd have to be blind not to see it. You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own. He can't do it! The House and the Senate can do something but the sitting VP cannot. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I am in no way happy about what is happening, but the VP is powerless right now. I challenge you or anyone else to show me where in the Constitution or any federal regulation any statute that gives the VP the authority you want him to wield. You can't do it can you? My understanding is he simply needs to send it back to the states and the state legislators want to de-certify Your "understanding" is incorrect. Glad we have a constitutional scholar on board...... you should head over to the "Q" thread and straighten them boys out also.... 
Originally Posted by Judman
PS, if you think Trump is “good” you’re way stupider than I thought! Haha
Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit.
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Pence may now regret his words. Like trump, he'll have a heck of a time learning a trade at his age.
Son of a liberal: " What did you do in the War On Terror, Daddy?"
Liberal father: " I fought the Americans, along with all the other liberals."
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
On what grounds....how about my dick and balls? How about those for "grounds"? Since he, and you, and most men in the US seem to lack them, I'd say those are pretty impressive grounds. Hey dumbass like I ask on what legal grounds. Really a simple question. Guess when one has no answer the best you can do is make a damn fool of yourself.
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them? Please don't post ever again. His question is valid. Please respond---with evidence.
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
Overwhelming proof of massive election fraud in support of the deep state's candidate and against Trump. You'd have to be blind not to see it. You do not seem to grasp the simple fact that the VP does NOT have the authority anywhere to overturn an election on his own. He can't do it! The House and the Senate can do something but the sitting VP cannot. What part of that is hard for you to grasp? I am in no way happy about what is happening, but the VP is powerless right now. I challenge you or anyone else to show me where in the Constitution or any federal regulation any statute that gives the VP the authority you want him to wield. You can't do it can you? My understanding is he simply needs to send it back to the states and the state legislators want to de-certify Your "understanding" is incorrect. Glad we have a constitutional scholar on board...... you should head over to the "Q" thread and straighten them boys out also.... The Constitution is not difficult to read and understand. The problem is that few take the effort to attempt it.
You get out of life what you are willing to accept. If you ain't happy, do something about it!
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Pence didn't decline a thing.
You can't decline to do something you have no authority to do in the first place.
How difficult is this to grasp?
From a race of hunters, artists, warriors, and tamers of horses, we degraded ourselves to what we are now: clerks, functionaries, laborers, entertainers, processors of information.
� Edward Abbey
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Pence knows whats right and wrong and guess what. Trump is wrong. Trump needs to concede and bend over and kiss his azz goodby.
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I do screw pence and all of his buddies in the swamp
T R U M P W O N !
U L T R A M A G A !
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Pence did the right thing, He knows Trump is a POS and a Narcissist but has put up with him for the last 4 years cause he did'nt want trump to "fire" him. And so are a lot of Republicans feeling the same way. If you were the underdog and getting beat up, would you roll over and say "I give up" just sayin.
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0n what grounds would he have overturned them?
On what grounds....how about my dick and balls? How about those for "grounds"? Since he, and you, and most men in the US seem to lack them, I'd say those are pretty impressive grounds. Hey dumbass like I ask on what legal grounds. Really a simple question. Guess when one has no answer the best you can do is make a damn fool of yourself. I gave you the answer you deserved, you fuuck. Feel lucky you got anything at all.
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