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Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.



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Here’s a guess. What do you think the majority of parents did with their kids today?

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Will add, today it's socially acceptable to have a partner and not a spouse.
And it's also OK with most, if the partner is same sex, and or thinks they are an animal or alien.

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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.
There's a lot of truth to this.


Yes there is.

Now consider that 80% of all divorces are filed by women.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.
There's a lot of truth to this.


Yes there is.

Now consider that 80% of all divorces are filed by women.



That’s not a new phenomenon.


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Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.


All that's true. Another issue is that young people who spent their teens and twenties "hooking up" with everything that walks are damaged to the point that they're incapable of forming a committed relationship. The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.


All that's true. Another issue is that young people who spent their teens and twenties "hooking up" with everything that walks are damaged to the point that they're incapable of forming a committed relationship. The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.


And that's why so many men are choosing not to marry those women.
The risks outweigh the rewards.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by Crow hunter
Originally Posted by Bristoe
A big part of the problem is, a lot of young people today don't see any path to making enough money to set up housekeeping and raising kids.

Another is, young men are shying away from marriage because in the event of a divorce, the man will be financially ruined for all of eternity.

Basically, young people see the marriage "thing" as something that's not available to them. It's something the previous generations participated in.


All that's true. Another issue is that young people who spent their teens and twenties "hooking up" with everything that walks are damaged to the point that they're incapable of forming a committed relationship. The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.


And that's why so many men are choosing not to marry those women.
The risks outweigh the rewards.



True.
The move to cohabitation without documents of union was led by men for the reason you just stated.

Next time instead of marriage I’m just gonna go find a women that I despise and buy her a house, once said another poster here.


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Two words...pre-nup.

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Originally Posted by Crow hunter
The saying that "you can't turn a ho into a housewife" is true, if they view sex as something as mundane as shopping for groceries then they're likely to cheat on you the first times they get pissed off at you, and as any married man knows they're pissed off at you half the time. The likelihood of being cheated on if you marry one of these hookup culture partners is extremely high, then you've got to decide if you'll put up with it and stay married or divorce them and lose most of your money and property.


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And that's why so many men are choosing not to marry those women.
The risks outweigh the rewards.


Y'all think that concept is limited to women? LOL


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Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Two words...pre-nup.


Including pre common law cohabitation.


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You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


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Originally Posted by BobBrown
You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


Said those in gay marriage.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by EthanEdwards
Two words...pre-nup.


Including pre common law cohabitation.





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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


Said those in gay marriage.

We ALL know why your buddy always takes you out fishing on his boat. No one else will catch for him . LOL


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot


The move to cohabitation without documents of union was led by men for the reason you just stated.


I am not convinced that this is true. I also think that there are some additional reasons for this. With the elimination of any legal distinction in the status of children as either “legitimate” or “illegitimate,” and the rise of no-fault divorce, what really is the point besides religious beliefs and certain legal rights afforded those with married status, such as inheritance, tax benefits and medical decisions? A true commitment can be backed up by paper or not, and paper does not prove commitment in any event.


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Originally Posted by BobBrown
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You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


Said those in gay marriage.

We ALL know why your buddy always takes you out fishing on his boat. No one else will catch for him . LOL


We ALL know you’re a sock puppet.


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Originally Posted by Cheyenne
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The move to cohabitation without documents of union was led by men for the reason you just stated.


I am not convinced that this is true. I also think that there are some additional reasons for this. With the elimination of any legal distinction in the status of children as either “legitimate” or “illegitimate,” and the rise of no-fault divorce, what really is the point besides religious beliefs and certain legal rights afforded those with married status, such as inheritance, tax benefits and medical decisions? A true commitment can be backed up by paper or not, and paper does not prove commitment in any event.


The current trend in the Men's Movement is well past cohabitation without documentation. The direction now is toward no cohabitation, and no long term relationships. The primary drivers behind this is women filing 80% of the divorces, and the financial ruin visited upon men in the process.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
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You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


Said those in gay marriage.

We ALL know why your buddy always takes you out fishing on his boat. No one else will catch for him . LOL


We ALL know you’re a sock puppet.

There’s only one sock puppet here. Blessings to you and your “very best friend”.


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Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by BobBrown
Originally Posted by Old_Toot
Originally Posted by BobBrown
You're missing the point. This is not an EITHER/OR scenario. Variety is the spice of life.


Said those in gay marriage.

We ALL know why your buddy always takes you out fishing on his boat. No one else will catch for him . LOL


We ALL know you’re a sock puppet.


More like a cock bucket.


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