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I don’t believe men have changed much, women as a whole however have always been famously suggestible.
No accident that it was Eve who got talked into thinking that biting the apple was the thing to do.
Congrats on finding a good woman.
Just because I don't believe it's not a literal truth, doesn't mean it's not a literary truth. Typical too that Adam let a woman lead him astray against his own better judgement, tho I dunno if they were getting it on before the apple. BW, The way I interoperate the story of the fall in Genesis, no Adam and Eve were not getting it on before the incident at the tree. There much allegory in the story. The serpent that lead Eve into temptation was Adam's one eyed trouser snake, and the apple (technically the Bible just says it was fruit and doesn't specify) is an allegory for the fruit of her loins. It our society it's the women the control access to sex, and Eve's gift to Adam of sex carried with it great consequences. After eve shared herself with Adam, he got kicked out of his fathers house (The Garden of Eden, the perfect paradise made for his children) and go till the land. Today we call that getting a job. So, yes, it's no accident that it was the woman who offered up herself to the man and after he accepted, his whole world changed and he had to get to job in order to feed Eve and all the kids they had together.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Christianity teaches Women should honor (respect) their husbands. The King James Version was translated obey, but the original Greek means respect. Men are to love their wives as themselves. In the past some men took the translation "obey" literally. This caused problems in the modern world.
In 1960, most dating didn't begin until age 16, when kids could drive. Most kids date around for 2 years before having sex. So statistics showed than 90% of kids did not have sex until after they were 18. Girls got married an average age of 19. Boys 21. Boys got their skills, trade, or college by 21. They were able to get and maintain a good paying job, thus were ready to marry. Girls usually got married out of high school at about 19. Divorce in 1960 was only about 20-30%, and usually early on. Most women didn't work but were stay at home moms. No need for daycare. Kids had supervision after school. Fathers provided the income and security for the family. Families worked together for common goals, homes, cars, vacations, etc. In 1960 50% of Americans attended church at least twice a week. Christian values were adhered to in public because of this. This kept crime down, and people knew and respected others more. Yes, there was adultry and divorce, but it was usually among the rich and upper class more so. Men with money, and women too, had too much time on their hands.
In 1900 90% of people still lived on farms or small towns. Fathers and mothers were at home more or had a small shop or store that kids could walk to if they needed their fathers. Divorce was very low. Families worked together.
Today, with the turning away from Christian values and principles, people are more angry, bitter, sex is easy and free, no commitment, no respect, murder and rape have increased, no loyalty to their job, their spouse or girlfriend/boyfriend. Also, the Bible says the sin of Sodom was idleness of time and fullness of bread. Too much idle time lead to the mess we have today, from free sex and adultry to the LBGTQ crap. No respect for human live lead to abortion. Unless we bring our missionary's home and have a massive revival in America, we are going the way of socialism and 3rd world crapholes. There is now no respect for the American system. Freedom of SPEACH, not cancel culture. Right to keep and bear arms, not disarm everyone in hopes crime will go down, it won't, they will just use knives and baseball bats. I hope we have revival. Athiests do not have to participate, but at least admit America under Christian influence if far better than socialism.
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I dislike much,and maybe most, of what I see and hear in general about family court actions and divorce judgments. Often bad for kids and parents as well, and nonsensical. Also have seen the gamut of feminist ideology played out for the past 60 years and feel that was never fundamentally designed to elevate and/or emancipate women.
The above factors certainly have been - and are - detrimental. However, all too often we hear railing and wailing about those as the instruments of ruination - from those who seem to assume the role of victim. Not all, but many. In one way or another, we all seem to pay for our weak decisions. Some people are much more influenced by incentives than by values
Aside from those of us who got the benefit of dumb luck, the creation and sustenance of an excellent marriage will demand hard work and some sacrifice. . Girls raised lovingly and with proper values generally do not go down the sorry paths discussed in this thread.
At what level have you dealt with the family court system in the United States? Local and state - at what level have you dealt?? You’re divorced?
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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I dislike much,and maybe most, of what I see and hear in general about family court actions and divorce judgments. Often bad for kids and parents as well, and nonsensical. Also have seen the gamut of feminist ideology played out for the past 60 years and feel that was never fundamentally designed to elevate and/or emancipate women.
The above factors certainly have been - and are - detrimental. However, all too often we hear railing and wailing about those as the instruments of ruination - from those who seem to assume the role of victim. Not all, but many. In one way or another, we all seem to pay for our weak decisions. Some people are much more influenced by incentives than by values
Aside from those of us who got the benefit of dumb luck, the creation and sustenance of an excellent marriage will demand hard work and some sacrifice. . Girls raised lovingly and with proper values generally do not go down the sorry paths discussed in this thread.
At what level have you dealt with the family court system in the United States? Local and state - at what level have you dealt?? You’re divorced? Are you rational and paying attention? At what level have you dealt?
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I dislike much,and maybe most, of what I see and hear in general about family court actions and divorce judgments. Often bad for kids and parents as well, and nonsensical. Also have seen the gamut of feminist ideology played out for the past 60 years and feel that was never fundamentally designed to elevate and/or emancipate women.
The above factors certainly have been - and are - detrimental. However, all too often we hear railing and wailing about those as the instruments of ruination - from those who seem to assume the role of victim. Not all, but many. In one way or another, we all seem to pay for our weak decisions. Some people are much more influenced by incentives than by values
Aside from those of us who got the benefit of dumb luck, the creation and sustenance of an excellent marriage will demand hard work and some sacrifice. . Girls raised lovingly and with proper values generally do not go down the sorry paths discussed in this thread.
At what level have you dealt with the family court system in the United States? Local and state - at what level have you dealt?? You’re divorced? Are you rational and paying attention? At what level have you dealt? Why am I not surprised that you didn't answer the question?
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
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Most of us become our parents, ain’t gonna bother to look it up but I’d expect most of those from broken marriages are likewise less likely to be in a stable marriage themselves.
For the lowest extreme of learned dis-function, look at our self-perpetuating ghettos and ‘hoods.
Ain’t all kids that do this, I always estimated maybe 90-95% Makes me realize how damn lucky I’ve been. My wife & I both from broken homes. We’re still married & will be until death do us part. But we’re still married because of her, not because of me, much to my shame.
I'm pretty certain when we sing our anthem and mention the land of the free, the original intent didn't mean cell phones, food stamps and birth control.
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I dislike much,and maybe most, of what I see and hear in general about family court actions and divorce judgments. Often bad for kids and parents as well, and nonsensical. Also have seen the gamut of feminist ideology played out for the past 60 years and feel that was never fundamentally designed to elevate and/or emancipate women.
The above factors certainly have been - and are - detrimental. However, all too often we hear railing and wailing about those as the instruments of ruination - from those who seem to assume the role of victim. Not all, but many. In one way or another, we all seem to pay for our weak decisions. Some people are much more influenced by incentives than by values
Aside from those of us who got the benefit of dumb luck, the creation and sustenance of an excellent marriage will demand hard work and some sacrifice. . Girls raised lovingly and with proper values generally do not go down the sorry paths discussed in this thread.
At what level have you dealt with the family court system in the United States? Local and state - at what level have you dealt?? You’re divorced? Are you rational and paying attention? At what level have you dealt? Why am I not surprised that you didn't answer the question? You should not be surprised for two reasons - 1. he chose not to answer the question first asked of him - 2. he already knows the answer to his inquiry. I would have thought you would have been smart enough to figure that out. Negative intent tends to reveal itself.
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