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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: JamesJr] #15684971 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by JamesJr


Not questioning what you have seen, but the Remington 700's have far outsold any other bolt action rifles over the past 50-60 years, so it only stands to reason that you have seen more Remington's "fail" because you have seen more Remingtons.


...or they break more often.

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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: JCMCUBIC] #15684976 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by JCMCUBIC
I've not used one but the Tikka T3x Arctic might be in the running.

The Ruger Scout rifle might be as well.



Any rifle with a Sako style or M16 style extractor, or Mauser type is fine for me. I have used the Tikkas in lots of late season hunts in sub zero temps and they work have never had any issues.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15684978 01/21/21
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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15684979 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
The Remington 700 action is the one most copied by custom gun builders. That says something.

It certainly does. It says the Remington 700 is the easiest to copy!
For a rugged hunting rifle which can be disassembled and assembled in the field, without tools, and which is most likely to function as it should, the Mauser 98 is still the best. Since the OP specified a modern short action, he is willing to compromise a bit.
The Ruger 77 is a good choice. In the years I was gunsmithing, in a busy store, I saw very few come into the shop because they had a problem. Of the top four sellers, (Remington, Winchester, Browning, and Ruger) they were the least likely to come into the shop. I had one brought in which had been an Eskimo rifle, used for polar bear, walrus, seals, etc. It was rusted on every surface, the stock was beat to hell and the barrel was bulged in three places, but it still worked! I bought the action and I still use it, forty years later. GD

Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15684989 01/21/21
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I guess you have to define bombproof. I've seen very few actions blown apart due to pressure but the few I have seen have all have been Winchester 70's. I'm not saying this is anything other than a coincidence.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15684999 01/21/21
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Good thread , lots of good answers. I was thinking my ss M77 mk2 boat paddle with an extra scope and rings pre zero ' d in the kit might be the tits. Unless he sold it I think hookeye has one he wants to sell. Mb


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685022 01/21/21
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If Kimber would do a minor re-engineer of their 84M/8400 short-mag footprint adding a 3.1" SA mag box (and of course the proper mods to bolt-stop/ejector) then add an "open-style" old-school M70 type trigger we'd be in cotton so tall it'd hide Andre the Giant.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685025 01/21/21
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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685028 01/21/21
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Ringworm: Remington 700 is the answer to your question.
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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685050 01/21/21
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I have killed a pile of animals with my Ruger MK II S.S. 280. Focused solely on the spot, stalk & kill, the rifle never ever gave me pause or distracted me task at hand. It is always a point & shoot tool.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685057 01/21/21
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Hard to believe there is a factory bolt gun out there tougher or more durable than a Ruger MKII stainless with boat paddle stock.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685097 01/21/21
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I thought a similar thread was done a few years ago. except w/o the SA stipulation. I think the consensus of most of the opinions based a lot on Alaska members was a Ruger 77.

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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685100 01/21/21
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I've had stellar luck with my R700's. I don't burn military armory level of rounds but we shoot a considerable amount most every week. I've got one old 700SA that went through 3 22-250 barrels including at least one set-back-a-thread- and-rechamber when I was mad at the pasture poodles. It still lives as a 250 savage mountain rifle clone now - thing is smooth as glass and total parts breakage is zero. I can't eve begin to estimate the number of rounds through that thing. I might be missing something but before our canoe accident we had R700's from 22-250 to 300RUM to 375 H&H.....I can remember a BDL floorplate pin falling out and that's the only failure.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: Magnum_Bob] #15685103 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by Magnum_Bob
Good thread , lots of good answers. I was thinking my ss M77 mk2 boat paddle with an extra scope and rings pre zero ' d in the kit might be the tits. Unless he sold it I think hookeye has one he wants to sell. Mb


Or just a front sight and NECG rear peep.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: JamesJr] #15685105 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by JamesJr
Remington 700 or 7.



No chance. But probably the Ruger action,


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: TnBigBore] #15685118 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by TnBigBore
Hard to believe there is a factory bolt gun out there tougher or more durable than a Ruger MKII stainless with boat paddle stock.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: greydog] #15685146 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by greydog
Originally Posted by shootbrownelk
The Remington 700 action is the one most copied by custom gun builders. That says something.

It certainly does. It says the Remington 700 is the easiest to copy!
For a rugged hunting rifle which can be disassembled and assembled in the field, without tools, and which is most likely to function as it should, the Mauser 98 is still the best. Since the OP specified a modern short action, he is willing to compromise a bit.
The Ruger 77 is a good choice. In the years I was gunsmithing, in a busy store, I saw very few come into the shop because they had a problem. Of the top four sellers, (Remington, Winchester, Browning, and Ruger) they were the least likely to come into the shop. I had one brought in which had been an Eskimo rifle, used for polar bear, walrus, seals, etc. It was rusted on every surface, the stock was beat to hell and the barrel was bulged in three places, but it still worked! I bought the action and I still use it, forty years later. GD


greydog;
Top of the morning to you sir, I hope the winter has been as mild in your part of the world as it's been here and all in your world who matter are healthy.

Thanks for sharing that story and your real world experience. For sure you would have seen a bunch of stuff back in the day. I still recall you were able to help me with a Sako from that era with a bum trigger, when most others said I was hallucinating.

Way back in the day I recall a Ruger advert where they'd bought a .308 back from some Australian buffalo culler or something like that. It had been documented with a huge amount of rounds and was still ticking along just fine.

As some have mentioned, the T3 Arctic is likely quite decent, but again it was partially picked because Berretta would allow it to be built here in Canada and my understanding is that Ruger wasn't interested in outsourcing to anyone, so the Scout was eliminated from the trials then and there.

Thanks again and all the best to you all 4 valleys east.

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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685269 01/21/21
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I’d lean towards a Ruger 77 myself but just my opinion.


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: Cluggins] #15685272 01/21/21
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Originally Posted by Cluggins
Unless someone has done destructive testing, any answer anyone gives will be them talking out of their ass.


Anyone recall how many rounds Nosler put through one (N)ULA action testing their ammo and bullets?


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Re: Most durable SA modern bolt gun [Re: ringworm] #15685331 01/21/21
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Too much emphasis is placed on the "advantages" of SA actions.
All things being equal, you're talking about 3/8"-1/2" difference in length and 1-2 oz in weight, hardly worth fretting over in practical terms.
And as to the stiffer action argument for SA's, quantifying that will be difficult to determine, again in any practical terms.
More trigger time will trump technical minutia in most cases.

Go with the action that is most robust for your needs and if its a SA fine, but if a standard action is a better option given the parameters, pull out the wallet.


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