Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire My cousin's book just hit #1 new release on Amazon!!!

Why would we want to buy anything from Amazon?

Ama-who?

Uhhhhh, what?

Your cranium must be emptium .

That's funny. Before European settlers arrived in North American at least 10 million elk roamed the continent, but none lived in Yellowstone till day before yesterday? Archaelogical evidence says they've been on the continent for 120,000 years, but not in Yellowstone where the habitat is prime? Wolves and Grizzly are native to the Park too, just as buffalo. Wolves and grizz feed on large ungulates. Yellowstone Park (with its current borders) is not a complete, self-contained and self-regulating ecosystem anymore, therefore man has a role to play to keep it in balance. Yellowstone with no beaver is absurd, but that was the condition of the park 60 years ago because there were so many elk that they destroyed beaver habitat and food supplies to the point of virtually eliminating beaver from the park. This had all sorts of negative consequences for other wildlife and flora in the park too. The reintroduction of the wolves has changed that for the better (beaver are back in large numbers and with that elevated water tables and willow stands and fish and birds), but the wolf populations must be kept in check. You really should read Alston Chase's book "Playing God in Yellowstone". He also wrote a book highly critical of the destruction of the American logging industry under the fig-leaf of saving the spotted owl.

They could have had a hunting season every year at Yellowstone and surrounding areas to "harvest" surplus cow elk. The DNR could have regulated the number of tags and length of it as needed. It would have provided food and recreation for real Americans.

But no, let's reintroduce wolves.

No, they couldn't because the public wouldn't support it. Something akin to what existed before Euro settlers----a mix of human hunters and wolves to control ungulate populations was desired because it was "natural". We have hunters and now we have wolves. Just need to keep the wolf populations in check.

Diarrhea is also natural. just sayin.

Agreed. Here is how bad it was: when Grizzly bear populations in the park were plummeting, a group of conservationists proposed sending teams of archers on horseback into the Yellowstone backcountry to arrow large numbers of elk and bison and then drag them into meat piles to simulate the kinds of mass killings the natives had done in bygone eras and therewith, provide grizz with a good source of protein and fat so their numbers could recover. It would also replace the dumps the bears had grown used to go feeding on (but which the Park had closed). This was a win-win solution by virtually any definition: archers on horseback simulating what native Americans had done and recapturing the high-quality protein and fat source the grizz had enjoyed in prior centuries. You know what the grizzly bear advocates said? NO!!. In fact, one of them actually said (this was an environmentalist, mind you) "if we can't have grizzly bears naturally, then we won't have them at all". They were willing to see grizzly bears perish from the Yellowstone out of fealty to some warped, non-sensical, idiotic notion of "natural".

What’s funny is your lack of understanding what wasn’t in Yellowstone before the Europeans came. All the game that resides in Yellowstone were a result of encroachment and transplant.

All the game including elk, bighorn sheep, deer, Buffalo, even grizzly bears were all plains animals. What you see there now is the result of human interference. Check out the Corps of Discovery and you will see that once they came to the Rocky Mountains, they almost starved.

Now go back to Tim’s loser of a relative and read his book and Alston Chase’s book, but don’t forget they are found in Barnes and Noble in the fiction section.

have a link to the fascinating archers on horseback fairy tale?

Lol, that's almost to much to believe.

+1

Though to be authentic they should not have used horses and only sharp rocks and pointy sticks.

Since when is Yellowstone a balanced ecosystem. There isn’t a single indigenous species to Yellowstone other than mountain goats and grouse. Everything else was pushed or hauled there by people. It is laughable to see how naive people are to the natural aspects of Yellowstone when they don’t have a clue to what there really wasn’t in Yellowstone until the settlement of the western United States.[/quote]



That's funny. Before European settlers arrived in North American at least 10 million elk roamed the continent, but none lived in Yellowstone till day before yesterday? Archaelogical evidence says they've been on the continent for 120,000 years, but not in Yellowstone where the habitat is prime? Wolves and Grizzly are native to the Park too, just as buffalo. Wolves and grizz feed on large ungulates. Yellowstone Park (with its current borders) is not a complete, self-contained and self-regulating ecosystem anymore, therefore man has a role to play to keep it in balance. Yellowstone with no beaver is absurd, but that was the condition of the park 60 years ago because there were so many elk that they destroyed beaver habitat and food supplies to the point of virtually eliminating beaver from the park. This had all sorts of negative consequences for other wildlife and flora in the park too. The reintroduction of the wolves has changed that for the better (beaver are back in large numbers and with that elevated water tables and willow stands and fish and birds), but the wolf populations must be kept in check. You really should read Alston Chase's book "Playing God in Yellowstone". He also wrote a book highly critical of the destruction of the American logging industry under the fig-leaf of saving the spotted owl.
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What’s funny is your lack of understanding what wasn’t in Yellowstone before the Europeans came. All the game that resides in Yellowstone were a result of encroachment and transplant.

All the game including elk, bighorn sheep, deer, Buffalo, even grizzly bears were all plains animals. What you see there now is the result of human interference. Check out the Corps of Discovery and you will see that once they came to the Rocky Mountains, they almost starved.

Now go back to Tim’s loser of a relative and read his book and Alston Chase’s book, but don’t forget they are found in Barnes and Noble in the fiction section.[/quote]


Could it have been then as now that many species have moved from the mountains to the plains as it is easier to spot and outrun wolves in the open?

Reminds me of Buzz. Almost 5000 posts and poof he was gone

Buzz?

I'm a bit fuzzy this morning, who's Buzz?

I never viewed this CowboyTim thread as a shining star in the Campfire history books.

And 'poof' he was gone?

I guess we'd need to define 'poof'.

To this day those slanderous reviews of his Cousins book are still on Amazon.

Notta one of you fu_cks that posted them had ever read the book or even knew who the hell his cousin was.

Far to much like a bunch of guys that wanted the dorky kid to go home so they kicked his Sisters ass.

I suppose if it works it works but sheezz.

Shouldn’t brag about voting for Biden then promote your brothers new book. Fugk Cowboytim.

Agreed, but they fugked his Cousin not him.

Asymmetrical warfare is a thing...

The left does it VERY VERY VERY well...

The right... sometimes... usually not.

i.e. Usually the right just let's Kyle walk up a street alone... and shouts "Ra Ra... Sis Boom Ba" from a keyboard.