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Fire. They're like pine cones.

In the good old days we walked into the gun store and bought what we wanted. If there was a problem we went back and talked face to face. If you ask me our new way of communicating stinks. It's very hard to build trust and relations that way and often what is built is misleading or misunderstood. Words on a screen have caused much trouble. Too bad about your rifle.

Starting to think its maybe....juuuuuust maybe....its not the rifles that have the problem.

I accept full irresponsibility for all of it.

This. We need the declass.

Paul, i missed the thread concerning the problem with the rifle.

Could you please repost the link.

Sad to hear this about Nosler or the rifle.

Good luck with the problem

You are 100% correct on this. Back when I was a SAR controller, there was tension between the SAR controllers and the aviation units that were all too often called out on BS CYOA cases. We were separated physically from them and had very dissimilar professional backgrounds. Because we were located at different facilities, we never saw them, we didn't know who they were. As a consequence our interaction with them lacked any human element. I made the suggestion to my boss that all of our people go to the Air Station to meet them and that all of their personnel come to the Command Center to meet us. It made a massive difference. It's easier to be understanding and harder to be a digk when it is a human that you know who you are dealing with.

I didn't post it here. The thread on Nosler is here: https://forum.nosler.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=41286

It will be interesting to see if they allow it to stand as it is and as I update it with the above email.

OTOH, i think some of us commented on those and recommended the 270.

Sorry, Paul, i couldnt resist. Ive been reading too much Travis.

No need to apologize, I am fair game.

Another modern Oregon business gone the way of Columbia and Nike. Probably being ran by leftists now too. I used to stop at their shop in Bend on my way to the coast. I asked a guy why they had so much variation in their tip length on custom comp bullets. He told me he would explain it too me but doubted I'd understand the process. Total DB.

Then he told me how most of their 2nds weren't really seconds they just labeled them that way so they could sell them direct at a discount and not make their dealers mad. I told them I knew a few different dealers that wouldn't carry their bullets because of them undercutting them like that. He said what do you mean undercutting. I said I'd explain it to you but you wouldn't understand the process.

I haven't bought much from them since but I had a lifetime supply of partitions and accubonds already.

Bb

lol

Don't know anything, nothing, about Nosler's entry in the rifle business...but I can tell you that the bullet business operated by John Nosler's offspring is rife with nepotism, in-laws and all that implies. The person I know that worked there, said it is operated in an atmosphere of fear, retribution, intimidation, cliques, informers, very, very high proportion of female employees...about what you would expect in a 2nd and 3rd generation inherited business. My source told me the guys who work in production, maintenance, and testing are the great...but the rest, inspection, QC, packing, shipping, admin, PR ,create a very tense work environment.

Just saw and commented on your post on the Nosler forum.



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I only know one guy that owns a Nosler rifle.It is one of the early Customs in 300WSM and really shoots good,but the stocks sucks big time.When you spend good money you should expect a quality product.I suggest your next rifle be built by a reputable gunsmith or buy another Tikka.Do they supply a test target with the rifle?

Love how right below the post, it says in big, bold letters: "Excellence - Integrity - Service"

All of which seem absent in this case.

That's a very good letter. What's the title of the guy you sent it to?

If I were the CEO and got a letter even remotely like that, it would be a subject at the next executive meeting. And then I would send you a letter thanking you and enclosing a gift certificate. Your rifle (if not already shipped) would be shipped the day after I got the letter.

Everybody who is not a moron knows it's a lot easier to keep existing customers than to gt new ones. There's nothing worse not doing what you told the customer you were going to do. If you can't follow through, for reasons out of your control, tell the customer and apologize.

Sounds kinda like my divorce from weatherby.
7mm fibermark 1985 or so.
Shot a solid MOB.. minute of barn door. With every load I tried.
Sent it down the road and have run custom builds ever since... Looking at the prices on the Noslers .. and the problems you've had ..
Get it your way and go custom..
All the years and all the builds I've only had one that I would consider a flop...
Dave

Whatever is the opposite of a horseshoe up one’s exit port, Paul’s got it. Not only would I not let him buy my lottery ticket, I don’t want to stand near him in a thunderstorm or meteor shower.

No test target was provided. Had they shot it with their factory match ammo they would have seen the keyholing and the associated abysmal grouping.