Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Handguns Sig 365 vs SA Hellcat

First time handling the SA - very thin grip like the Sig, I was surprised, nicer in person than pics to my hand. Nice sights.

Anyone used both? Pros/Cons? The Sig XL seems to be my pic of the 365s, but the little SA has a better slide release that my thumb will actually engage and better sights, in the ones I looked at.

Both are great guns... I considered both and finally got the Hellcat just because of the SUPERIOR sights that cowitness with the red dot.

I just am not a springfield armory person, some are and some are not. The sig P365 is a very accurate 9mm and their service is good. I dropped mine on the rear sight and it took them about 8 days to replace and have it back in my hands. You wonder looking at the hellcat if the trigger is more glock like than anything else. I for one shoot the little sig a heck of a lot better than the g43 I owned, the shield I owned, and I shoot it better than a G19 I still own. If you can find one for rent would be the best deal, but personally I would probably not buy it anyway.

Looking at both of those right now. Could go either direction and be happy. I have Sigs and Springfields.

wish SIG had the same rear sight setup as the SA Hellcat....

SIG felt better in my hands.... I went 365

both are quality guns & should serve you well

In all fairness, I have no experience with the Hellcat. That said, I have had the 365 for over a year and I don't see how anything in that class could be any better. It's got a more solid feel to it than any polymer pistol of any kind that I've had any experience with. I find it comfortable to shoot and I can shoot it as well as most of my full-size pistols. When I look at it, I don't see how I can get my hands around it in any workable manner, but when I actually do, it's just great. It shoots a lot bigger than it carries.

I've shot both. As much as I like the ergonomics on the 365, and it shoots a bit softer, I can't warm up to the Sig trigger on a carry gun. I got rid of a P320 for the same reason--it's just too light for me. It's like a single action w/out the safety. However, one might be able to get a 365 with a safety. I know you can with a P320. I love the sights on the Hellcat. Have you considered a 43X?

The safety is between your ears, keep your bugger picker off the bang switch until you are ready to fire. OTOH a heavy trigger will make you and probably any target you shoot at damn safe.

I just picked up a 365 Tacpac, which comes with three 12 rd mags. The plan is to change the base plates and run it with the XL grip module since the extended base plates on the standard 365 and the flat base plates on the XL are pretty much the same length.

The quality of the P365 trigger is one of its best attributes

I'm a die hard Glock guy and have been for 30 years. I tried my friend's Hellcat and was damned impressed! Accurate and felt good in my hand. If i didn't already have a Glock 43, I'd buy one.

Ron

With regard to triggers: I just got a brand new, Gen 5, Glock 34. The trigger is pretty damn good for a Glock. It's not on the same planet with my Sig 365.

The SA Hellcat has a possible problem with the trigger not being pulled back "straight" and having enough side to side motion, that it will possibly prevent the gun from discharging. I replicated the trigger problem. There are youtube videos on it. I shot the Hellcat and was impressed....but the trigger issue worries me. The people I know who own the 365 love them. I have only dry fired one. Some reports claim failures with 365 in 2000 rounds and need to be sent for repair? Im unsure if this is true but Sig quality control appears to have gone done the last several years.

If you want more solid feel in polymer pistol try time proven Glock 26.

If you want a small pistol with high capacity, excellent accuracy with a great trigger for a striker fired pistol then get a Sig P365

One's a Sig, the other is......well....... not.
The answer is obvious.

Thanks guys, very good feedback everyone, appreciate it.

My Glock 26 sits in the safe while I carry the Sig P365 every day. I would pull the 26 out of the safe only if I needed the durability that comes with Glocks. For 3 magazines and done, or even 20, the P365 is plenty. For 200 magazines with no cleaning, Glock.

Darn shame Glock wasn't smart enough to build the 26
with a 9mm scale slide, a metal magazine (without a fat
plastic wrapper), and scale the grip around that metal mag.

As popular as it was, imagine "A Glock 365" in the mid 90's?

Dumbasses still haven't figured it all out.
It took Shield building mags for their "single stack" guns
to get there.

And it's been obvious for decades.

My Glock 26 sits in the safe while I carry the Sig P365 every day. I would pull the 26 out of the safe only if I needed the durability that comes with Glocks. For 3 magazines and done, or even 20, the P365 is plenty. For 200 magazines with no cleaning, Glock.[/quote]

Same here my Glock has sat in the safe since I bought the P365

I’ve owned a lot. Currently the hellcat most days. I like it

Not owned or shot a Hellcat. Have 2 G19's, a Gen4 and a Gen5, and 2 G17 Gen5's. No flies on them AT ALL. I just shoot the 365 XL better and it's a smaller, flatter, more compact package with a great grip frame angle (for me) and a much better trigger out of the box.

If I had to go into a dirty, filthy SHTF environment though, I would probably pick up one of the G19's. Or, more likely, one of the G17's.

I've owned both. Since your post was about the P365 and Hellcat and not about Jennings, Lorcin or Glock, I will only address the two about which you inquired. They are so similar that you can't make a bad choice between the two, unless, of course, you were to get a lemon. I shot the P365 better and liked the trigger better and that's what I chose. I would like to have had the extra round in the same sized gun; but, that wasn't the decider for me. I have nothing bad to say about the Hellcat. As a matter of fact, I'm comfortable with my choice of P365 and have been carrying it for two years. I'm also comfortable with the fact that my 25 year-old daughter has chosen to carry the Hellcat.

I'll throw in another vote for the hellcat, with the caveat that I only dry fired the sig. Both great platforms and hard to go wrong either way. I tried my damndest to replicate the trigger issues I heard about and couldn't.

Mine shoots well and I thought really soft, which makes me want to shoot a 365 side-by-side.

I actually prefer my XDs to the Hellcat that I owned.

That's worth highlighting--It's the old "No man in a gunfight wishes he had a smaller gun and fewer bullets." Bring the biggest gun you are willing to faithfully carry.

Which leads me to:



I have no experience with the Hellcat, but this is my experience with the Sig P365--I hit pretty well with it. It feels and shoots like a bigger gun (for me). I used to have a Kahr PM9, but it always had that "pea shooter" feel to it. Not with the Sig.

Again, I have no experience with the Hellcat, but I sure like my 365.

Sig P365 for me. Fits my hand, nice trigger, and I shoot it well.

Sounds like the 365 would win a survey here, but both are quality pieces.

When first introduced the 365 had some issues, or perhaps ONE issue.......apparently that's all been addressed. No one mentioned it.

Thanks folks!

I worked for a German company for 3 years, I am not surprised that they have never figured it out, because they are always right and much smarter than you are. The G43 I owned was compact but certainly sucked bigtime relative to the p365.

Handled a hellcat yesterday. Wasn’t for sale or it would’ve been mine. Need to handle a 365, but I’ll probably just take whichever one I can find locally.

Check out the 365 XL, too. If you get the opportunity. You'll get higher velocity, increased capacity, a flat trigger, better/longer sight radius, and a "big gun" feel.

Doesn't hold more rounds they can both run the 12 & 15 round magazines

OK. Don't have any regular 365's. Just 2 XL's.

You got one? Either a 365 or 365 XL?

Have you held a regular 365 with a 15 rd mag in it in your hand?

Not trying to be a smartass. Just asking. Don't see the regular 365 being ergonomic at all with a 15 rd mag in it.

I bought the 365 Friday got a delay from Nics but am impressed with ergonomics and trigger.

I own a P365 and 2 10 rd magazines, 2, 12 rd magazines and 2, 1t rd magazines. The grips fits my hand with the 15 rd magazine and that's how I carry it daily

Not sure why you think it has no ergonomics with the 15 rd magazine

Would think it to be butt heavy.

Not to me. When I purchased my P365 the 10 rd mag was way to short for my hand. For me the 15 rd mag is perfection

Well ok, then. If it works for you, then cool. I can understand wanting to carry it with a 15 rd mag.

I carry my 365 XL with a 15 rd mag in it every day, and another one in my pocket.

Havent shot either, a friend has a 365 that ive fingered several times.
The 10 round mags are too short, but doable.
The 12s are great for me, but I don't have big hands.
15's would probably be a little better.


Thing is, for me, if I buy a 365 I can use 10's and it fits a pocket well.
A 12 or 15 can come along.
If I want to use a holster, the bigger mags fit right in.


An XL is always bigger.

My first 365 was like this. Your post is the first I've seen out of hundreds to say the trigger on their gun was too light.
Mine actually doubled on me a couple of times. That's when I knew the trigger was too light for me.
When I posted about it online, I was told I needed training.

I sold it to a coworker who said he wouldn't mind the light trigger.
He doesn't shoot much but eventually he said it doubled on him.

I liked the design so much, I now have another one. The trigger on this one is very nice, but not "single action" light.
Can't make it double, no matter how hard I try.
I like it much better and is has now become my primary carry gun.

Sold my Shield and my G43. My G26 is now my truck gun, and backup to the home defense G19.

Sig 365 XL, try it you will like it. It is really a nice package.

I have the Hellcat. I really like it! but I haven't shot the Sig so can't compare.
They both seem like winners to me.

If one can not decide using hand fit test there is always coin flip to determine the winner.