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First time handling the SA - very thin grip like the Sig, I was surprised, nicer in person than pics to my hand. Nice sights.
Anyone used both? Pros/Cons? The Sig XL seems to be my pic of the 365s, but the little SA has a better slide release that my thumb will actually engage and better sights, in the ones I looked at.
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Both are great guns... I considered both and finally got the Hellcat just because of the SUPERIOR sights that cowitness with the red dot.
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I just am not a springfield armory person, some are and some are not. The sig P365 is a very accurate 9mm and their service is good. I dropped mine on the rear sight and it took them about 8 days to replace and have it back in my hands. You wonder looking at the hellcat if the trigger is more glock like than anything else. I for one shoot the little sig a heck of a lot better than the g43 I owned, the shield I owned, and I shoot it better than a G19 I still own. If you can find one for rent would be the best deal, but personally I would probably not buy it anyway.
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Looking at both of those right now. Could go either direction and be happy. I have Sigs and Springfields.
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wish SIG had the same rear sight setup as the SA Hellcat....
SIG felt better in my hands.... I went 365
both are quality guns & should serve you well
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In all fairness, I have no experience with the Hellcat. That said, I have had the 365 for over a year and I don't see how anything in that class could be any better. It's got a more solid feel to it than any polymer pistol of any kind that I've had any experience with. I find it comfortable to shoot and I can shoot it as well as most of my full-size pistols. When I look at it, I don't see how I can get my hands around it in any workable manner, but when I actually do, it's just great. It shoots a lot bigger than it carries.
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I've shot both. As much as I like the ergonomics on the 365, and it shoots a bit softer, I can't warm up to the Sig trigger on a carry gun. I got rid of a P320 for the same reason--it's just too light for me. It's like a single action w/out the safety. However, one might be able to get a 365 with a safety. I know you can with a P320. I love the sights on the Hellcat. Have you considered a 43X?
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The safety is between your ears, keep your bugger picker off the bang switch until you are ready to fire. OTOH a heavy trigger will make you and probably any target you shoot at damn safe.
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I just picked up a 365 Tacpac, which comes with three 12 rd mags. The plan is to change the base plates and run it with the XL grip module since the extended base plates on the standard 365 and the flat base plates on the XL are pretty much the same length.
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I've shot both. As much as I like the ergonomics on the 365, and it shoots a bit softer, I can't warm up to the Sig trigger on a carry gun. I got rid of a P320 for the same reason--it's just too light for me. It's like a single action w/out the safety. However, one might be able to get a 365 with a safety. I know you can with a P320. I love the sights on the Hellcat. Have you considered a 43X? The quality of the P365 trigger is one of its best attributes
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I'm a die hard Glock guy and have been for 30 years. I tried my friend's Hellcat and was damned impressed! Accurate and felt good in my hand. If i didn't already have a Glock 43, I'd buy one.
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With regard to triggers: I just got a brand new, Gen 5, Glock 34. The trigger is pretty damn good for a Glock. It's not on the same planet with my Sig 365.
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The SA Hellcat has a possible problem with the trigger not being pulled back "straight" and having enough side to side motion, that it will possibly prevent the gun from discharging. I replicated the trigger problem. There are youtube videos on it. I shot the Hellcat and was impressed....but the trigger issue worries me. The people I know who own the 365 love them. I have only dry fired one. Some reports claim failures with 365 in 2000 rounds and need to be sent for repair? Im unsure if this is true but Sig quality control appears to have gone done the last several years.
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In all fairness, I have no experience with the Hellcat. That said, I have had the 365 for over a year and I don't see how anything in that class could be any better. It's got a more solid feel to it than any polymer pistol of any kind that I've had any experience with. I find it comfortable to shoot and I can shoot it as well as most of my full-size pistols. When I look at it, I don't see how I can get my hands around it in any workable manner, but when I actually do, it's just great. It shoots a lot bigger than it carries. If you want more solid feel in polymer pistol try time proven Glock 26.
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In all fairness, I have no experience with the Hellcat. That said, I have had the 365 for over a year and I don't see how anything in that class could be any better. It's got a more solid feel to it than any polymer pistol of any kind that I've had any experience with. I find it comfortable to shoot and I can shoot it as well as most of my full-size pistols. When I look at it, I don't see how I can get my hands around it in any workable manner, but when I actually do, it's just great. It shoots a lot bigger than it carries. If you want more solid feel in polymer pistol try time proven Glock 26. If you want a small pistol with high capacity, excellent accuracy with a great trigger for a striker fired pistol then get a Sig P365
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One's a Sig, the other is......well....... not. The answer is obvious.
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Thanks guys, very good feedback everyone, appreciate it.
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In all fairness, I have no experience with the Hellcat. That said, I have had the 365 for over a year and I don't see how anything in that class could be any better. It's got a more solid feel to it than any polymer pistol of any kind that I've had any experience with. I find it comfortable to shoot and I can shoot it as well as most of my full-size pistols. When I look at it, I don't see how I can get my hands around it in any workable manner, but when I actually do, it's just great. It shoots a lot bigger than it carries. If you want more solid feel in polymer pistol try time proven Glock 26. My Glock 26 sits in the safe while I carry the Sig P365 every day. I would pull the 26 out of the safe only if I needed the durability that comes with Glocks. For 3 magazines and done, or even 20, the P365 is plenty. For 200 magazines with no cleaning, Glock.
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Darn shame Glock wasn't smart enough to build the 26 with a 9mm scale slide, a metal magazine (without a fat plastic wrapper), and scale the grip around that metal mag.
As popular as it was, imagine "A Glock 365" in the mid 90's?
Dumbasses still haven't figured it all out. It took Shield building mags for their "single stack" guns to get there.
And it's been obvious for decades.
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My Glock 26 sits in the safe while I carry the Sig P365 every day. I would pull the 26 out of the safe only if I needed the durability that comes with Glocks. For 3 magazines and done, or even 20, the P365 is plenty. For 200 magazines with no cleaning, Glock.[/quote]
Same here my Glock has sat in the safe since I bought the P365
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