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On the left, not a great photo but a CZ550 585 wildcat based on a 3" nyati case. As big as I ever cared to abuse myself with. The stock was a target donor just to do load developement but it stayed in the end. Ugly ,heavy, but fun off the bench. Gun on riight unknown calibre owned by friend.

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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
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458 Win mag. Mauser action


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4 bore.


At the same velocity this one would kick 4X harder. It's a 2 bore
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I made them, but for myself, my 62 cal flintlock is plenty large, and my 404 Jeffery does more then I'll need.

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.404 Jeffery
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,460 Wby
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,450 Howell
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.450 Howell on the left and .460 Wby on the right.
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my 416 Rigby, don't know how to get pictures bigger than this??

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The grand 400 Whelen. Left handed model 70 action, Shilen barrel, Lyman 48 receiver sight, 400 grain Hawk and a moose cow. It's got a couple caribou to it's credit as well.

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Originally Posted by mart
The grand 400 Whelen. Left handed model 70 action, Shilen barrel, Lyman 48 receiver sight, 400 grain Hawk and a moose cow. It's got a couple caribou to it's credit as well.



That sure is all put together right for a 400 Whelen.

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.450 Dakota Mauser 98 Magnum on a bison robe:

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A member at another forum likened the sights to that of a Red Ryder BB gun, my first "real" gun, so I am hardwired for them. smile

See more of her in the image gallery:

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I'll get some big bore pics sent to Ron over the next day or two, he's offered to post em up. smile


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Yours will take the cake. I sure wish pretty girl .450 Dakota could be transformed into a .458 WM+.


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Hey guys,

I think we've see enough pretty rifles... its time for an ugly one!

Here is my Zastava M70 in .458WM.
It's fitted with a Hogue stock with the full aluminium bedding block and topped with a Leupold 1.5-4x20 in Warne rings and bases (not the Leupold one shown here).
She's a 4 shotter (3 in the mag one in the chamber thanks to the bevelled extractor) and it shoots the big 550gn Woodleigh at 2080fps into the same hole at 50m.

It might not be pretty but it sure is functional and I LOVE it!


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Nothing ugly about that Badboymelvin, its a picture of economy and function. I even like the color.

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CZ550 458WM and dangerous rabbit:

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CZ550 375H&H mag. The bike is super quiet for sneaking up to the piggies on the dams and, no, I do not wear spandex.

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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
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Originally Posted by Raspy
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That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Mate, first time I have seen safari rifles used on a pushbike. Definitly a 'Meanwhile, in Australia.." moment that one. grin But what a good idea!

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Originally Posted by 158XTP
Mate, first time I have seen safari rifles used on a pushbike. Definitly a 'Meanwhile, in Australia.." moment that one. grin But what a good idea!


Yeah, and must wear fly screening of some sort around the face/head - the big blowies are a choking hazard smile


Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
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Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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My 416 Rigby

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My 375 Whelen AI

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Pre-64 375 H&H AI

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One of my 44's

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1885 45-90

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very nice collection Bugger! Is that the rem788 in the 44 mag? If so they were great guns, accuracy all over a ruger 357 or 44/77

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From our Big Game Rifle Nationals in 2014 - black powder big bores, 45/110 is quite popular:

Look closely and you'll see some nice firearms, cough. cough...


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Originally Posted by 158XTP
very nice collection Bugger! Is that the rem788 in the 44 mag? If so they were great guns, accuracy all over a ruger 357 or 44/77


Yep, that's a 788. I'd like to try it out on White tail this fall. I didn't draw any licenses in SD this last year until the 3rd or 4th draw. (The lottery draw system South Dakota has really sucks.) I should move back to Montana or Wyoming. (I applied for Muzzle Loading, East River, West River, Black Hills - white tail and or Mule Deer. I applied for antelope, elk, sheep, goats - nothing except on the third or fourth draw I did get doe tags in the opposite corner of the state.)

I have a Marlin 44 and I think I'll do some testing / comparing the Marlin with the Remington when the weather gets a little better. I've had two Ruger 44's both semi-autos. They have their place, but no longer in my safe. Maybe if I lived in the woods again... I sort of need a 357 rifle, don't know which to get.


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Originally Posted by irfubar
458 Win mag. Mauser action


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Damn nice rifle Fubar, nice rifles to the rest of you men too.

Where do you guys want to start? 9.3x62 [.366"] and up?

Have my cell on the charger, about to take some pics and send to Ron who has generously volunteered to post pics.


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Gunner500 - it says BIG bores! .40 and up ! smile


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The Mauser .458WM is a bute ! That background presentation and lighting is fantastical too.
I want to see the M70 .458WM+ and the 400 H&H, for starters, please.
The image gallery here at 24hrcampfire is great. Even a caveman can do it.


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Bugger, this topic has been argued to death over on Leverguns.com, I personally prefer the Winchester M1892 with 20 inch barrel as seen below with my M19 Combat Magnum:
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Browning 1892 is good too.


PS Very nice 1885 .45-90. You can load that baby up to African power! 450s at 2150 or more.

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10-4 CRS, just needed where the group wanted to start, I consider Big Bores 458 cal with 500 grains and up.

Ron, i'll get those to You now, will start at 8 Bore and work down to 40-65 Sharps, thanks for the account info, but we've no picture/bucket/e-mail/file storage anything here, this home computer is tied in with a giant network of computers at Wifes work at the hospitals, may be a security thing, I don't know, pics on the way.


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Great, be sure to send that M98 .458WM artwork along with any others too.


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Originally Posted by crshelton
Bugger, this topic has been argued to death over on Leverguns.com, I personally prefer the Winchester M1892 with 20 inch barrel as seen below with my M19 Combat Magnum:
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Browning 1892 is good too.


PS Very nice 1885 .45-90. You can load that baby up to African power! 450s at 2150 or more.


My dad left me a ‘92 when he died in ‘75. I really like that rifle. I used it on varmints and small game all these years. I have a 357 S&W’s and a ‘92 would be nice!
That 1885 45-90 may be a little heavy for Africa hunting. Unless someone else carried it.

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Since no big-bore autoloaders yet, I offer up me Browning BAR .458 Win mag(a):
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It was created in 1974 by Atchinson Gun Co., and was featured in Guns & Ammo magazine in 1974:

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I recall reading about it in G&A magazine in 1974 when I was 14, and was salivating over it! 46 years later I find it for sale and buy it!;)


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Desertoakie,

On this bigbore porn thread, .458 WM chambering of a Sporter BAR, an M1 Garand, or a Stoner-style Omen would be be like the guest speaker at a hooker's convention.
I knew they exist, but wonder about the numbers made of each.
There is another wild looking semi-auto too, but they are all like fat chicks compared to your BAR.
Very good on you.


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gunner500's cheesecake arrives, first 5 of 21, with brief identification he will have to elaborate on/ correct if I got any of it wrong:

Zihn 8 Bore:

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577 Nitro Express:

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500 Nitro Express:

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50-110 WCF:

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50-90 Sharps Long Range:

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Next 5:

50-90 Sharps Hunter:

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.505 Gibbs:

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45 3-1/4 Sharps:

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.45-110 Sharps:

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.45-70 M1886:

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Next 5 more:

.45-70 Sharps:

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44-77 Sharps, a prolific bison killer and match shooter one does not see often nowadays:

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40-65 Sharps:

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40-65 WCF M1886:

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.416 Taylor M98:

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Final 5 and then some extras:

400 Whelen M98:

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400 H&H M70:

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.458 WinMag Browning Safari:

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.458 WinMag M98:

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.458 WinMag M98 again:

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.458 WinMag+ M70:

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Look how rounded those primers are with AA-2460.
Looks like a job for AA-2230.











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There's more:

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Still life entitled "Three that Bag Well: A Bill Bagwell Bowie, a .458 WM+ and a .338/378 WBY"

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The +1100-yard gong that gunner500 might try with the .458 WM+, like he does with his .338/378 WBY
(I recommend the 500-gr TSX at 2250 fps and 3.780" COL for a single-loaded plinking round, barely off the lands.
That was 78.0 grains of AA-2230 with a 24-7/8" CZ barrel in one of my 3.4"-magazined rifles):

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Shooting position +1100 yards from that gong with .338/378 WBY:

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I would recommend a tall bipod and a sitting position for the .458 WinMag+.

gunner500 image galleries:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/galleries/15720985/gunner500-big-bores

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LOL, You got em Ron, not one mistake in the pics descriptions, Thank You very much for posting the pics, it's funny, I was talking to an old buddy on the phone last night, told him I had to burn 20 rifles to get "down" to the 375 H&H, "WTF? he said, you are crazy old man!" grin

I can see you really like Fubars M98 458, it's a beautiful rifle, bet it shoots as good as it looks.

The little brown hay meadow in the center of the pic is where I was, on south in the thicket across the creek next to the hi-way under the shadowed hill across the road, 1125 yards up to the gong on the mountain, that big 338 put three of those 300gr Accubonds in 10 inches that day, iirc it took me 27 MOA to get em up there leaving at 3000 fps, not a bad stick and move hunting rig.

Would be fun firing a 458 that far, may have to have machine shop buddy mill me out a 60 MOA rail and put a 5.5-22 Nightforce on and see if I could reach it. cool


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gunner500,

I could not resist putting up irfubar's beautiful M98 .458 WM, again, and he claims it happened by accident !
I also cannot resist trying to get you to shoot at your 1125-yard gong with your beautiful M70 Classic .458 WM+.
To be continued on the .458 WM thread started by MikeMcGuire ...


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Well, accidents do happen, even if we help them along I guess ; ]..............off the top of my head, I'd need 80 MOA to get a 450gr TSX to 1125 yards leaving at 2400 fps, could be done I bet! laugh


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All I can say is gunner500 is not short of a dollar, nor taste. The guns in the first pic alone exceed my lifetime gun and ammo budget grin

Can I ask who the 577 and 500 double are by?

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gunner500,

I could not resist putting up irfubar's beautiful M98 .458 WM, again, and he claims it happened by accident !
I also cannot resist trying to get you to shoot at your 1125-yard gong with your beautiful M70 Classic .458 WM+.
To be continued on the .458 WM thread started by MikeMcGuire ...


Id love to see gunner500 do a ballistics gelatin test with a 577 Nitro . grin And dont forget the 4 layers of denim on front as the FBI uses to challenge bullet expansion. grin

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I’m looking for a 404 pretty much like that one. Great looking rifle there.

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Originally Posted by 158XTP
All I can say is gunner500 is not short of a dollar, nor taste. The guns in the first pic alone exceed my lifetime gun and ammo budget grin

Can I ask who the 577 and 500 double are by?


LOL, Thanks for the compliments 158XTP, the 577 is a Verney-Carron, 500 Nitro is an Alfred Schilling custom boxlock built on a Merkel action.

Already done a test of sorts with the 577, it has 26 inch barrels and regulates perfectly to the sights with the 750gr TSX at 2076 fps over H-4350 powder, I shot a 55 gallon steel drum filled with water lengthways at 25 yards, at the shot, the main banded lid blew, the threaded filler cap pulled it's threads and came dancing back to me on the right side, the drum split at the seam, a huge dog knot was knocked in the bottom of the drum, I cant explain the tremendous hydraulic/displacement effect, it simply has to be seen to be believed/understood.

I saw that action firsthand last October in Tanzania, after Leopard crawling 60 yards through the wet river sand, I stood and fired at a huge old Cape Buffalo dagga boy in a herd of six, holding my fire until the river reeds blew an opening to shoot through, at 16 yards, the 750gr TSX caught the ancient bull in the last rib on his left side as he stood on a hard quartering away angle, at the shot the bull fell stiff legged and began his death bellow, I quickly moved left and gave him a solid through both shoulders, the skinners handed me a perfectly expanded 750gr TSX from under the hide on the 'front' of the bulls right shoulder under the hide, it nearly made it out.


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Damn nice looking rifles. How is it shooting the 400 H&H and 400 Whelen with a steel buttplate?

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Thanks Just a Hunter, both rifles weigh around 9lbs all up ready to go, the 400 Whelen fires 400gr Woodleigh Weldcore softs and solids at 2255 fps, the 400 H&H drives 400gr A Frames and BBW#13 solids at 2400 fps, both are easy on the shoulder, may be case design as to recoil impulse/velocity, I don't know, but don't find either uncomfortable from the bench, and certainly don't feel "or" hear either when firing at game.


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Originally Posted by 158XTP
All I can say is gunner500 is not short of a dollar, nor taste. The guns in the first pic alone exceed my lifetime gun and ammo budget grin

Can I ask who the 577 and 500 double are by?


LOL, Thanks for the compliments 158XTP, the 577 is a Verney-Carron, 500 Nitro is an Alfred Schilling custom boxlock built on a Merkel action.

Already done a test of sorts with the 577, it has 26 inch barrels and regulates perfectly to the sights with the 750gr TSX at 2076 fps over H-4350 powder, I shot a 55 gallon steel drum filled with water lengthways at 25 yards, at the shot, the main banded lid blew, the threaded filler cap pulled it's threads and came dancing back to me on the right side, the drum split at the seam, a huge dog knot was knocked in the bottom of the drum, I cant explain the tremendous hydraulic/displacement effect, it simply has to be seen to be believed/understood.

I saw that action firsthand last October in Tanzania, after Leopard crawling 60 yards through the wet river sand, I stood and fired at a huge old Cape Buffalo dagga boy in a herd of six, holding my fire until the river reeds blew an opening to shoot through, at 16 yards, the 750gr TSX caught the ancient bull in the last rib on his left side as he stood on a hard quartering away angle, at the shot the bull fell stiff legged and began his death bellow, I quickly moved left and gave him a solid through both shoulders, the skinners handed me a perfectly expanded 750gr TSX from under the hide on the 'front' of the bulls right shoulder under the hide, it nearly made it out.


Very nice stuff gunner500. I had a 585 bolt action wildcat done in about 2000, its pictured in my 3rd post here. Not exactly the classiness of your gun but about identical effect to that you describe on water filled drums grin I never got to take mine on African DG , thanks for the hunt report on how yours did. Very good to know big=results.

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Lovely package of fine Arms.

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158XTP, WOW! I've heard tell of 750 grains at over 2500 fps in those cannons, ho lee hell, that'd have to boot! and YESSIR, the first shot HURT that old Buffalo, and hurt him bad, very glad he died so quick, he is the oldest Buff my PH had ever seen, hard bosses worn completely smooth, I owed it to the Noble old Beast, he spent every waking minute since birth staying alive amongst the lions, probably saw over 100 lions on that trip.

Thanks You Fury01, they are a hell of a fun hobby, bordering on addiction ; ]


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Elkhunternm, I really like your 404 Jeffery. I want one, but don't need one, of course its never about need. I already have three .375 H&H rifles and a 416 Rem Mag. along with my 45-70. If I can figure out how to post pics, Maybe I can throw a couple of pics up of my 375's, its one of my favorite medium bore calibers. You guys have some beautiful rifles for sure.


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Recently sold this nice 375 H&H Model 70 built by Michael Scherz. Great rifle!
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Originally Posted by Riflecrank
There's more:

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Still life entitled "Three that Bag Well: A Bill Bagwell Bowie, a .458 WM+ and a .338/378 WBY"

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The +1100-yard gong that gunner500 might try with the .458 WM+, like he does with his .338/378 WBY
(I recommend the 500-gr TSX at 2250 fps and 3.780" COL for a single-loaded plinking round, barely off the lands.
That was 78.0 grains of AA-2230 with a 24-7/8" CZ barrel in one of my 3.4"-magazined rifles):

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Shooting position +1100 yards from that gong with .338/378 WBY:

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I would recommend a tall bipod and a sitting position for the .458 WinMag+.

gunner500 image galleries:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/galleries/15720985/gunner500-big-bores

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s/15721049/gunner500-big-bores-continued




RC,
I have come close to your 450gn TSX @ 2400fps using a Model 70 with 22" barrel.
My load was 72gn of H322 over a Fed 215 for 2381fps. (Hodgdon lists 71gn for 2220fps but just states using a soft point @ 3.340 OAL at roughly 61kpsi)
OAL for this load was 3.338".
The Barnes Vortex factory load for this bullet weight has an OAL of 3.328" and a velocity of 2133fps.

I always set my 35P up around 12-15 feet to avoid the blast and never correct to muzzle velocity, as I am never precise in my screen position.
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Yep, I have been over more powder-maker data than I can shake a stick at. Sir Bob (member CZ550) and Sir Jerry (gunner500) have too.
Your H322 is considerably faster in burn rate and bulky in comparison to the powders that Sir Jerry, Sir Bob, and I have found best,
along with the longer COL for added capacity and pressure reduction with increased MV.
Considering your SAAMI limited COL and and the speed you got with H322, that is excellent.

I have not damaged my Oehler 35P yet, but find the Caldwell G2 just as reliable, and with auxillary light source, and much handier and quicker to set up.
The old Prochrono was reliable too until a shotgun wad knocked it out.
I always precisely place the first screen 5 yards from muzzle, finding that prevents muzzle blast interference.
I can thus get a 5-yard correction for BC.
I even give credit to Sir Bob for his MagnaPorting, stated up front, to be backed out of if not appreciated.

Here is Bob's load with H335:

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and Sir Jerry's:

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I was able to get the 450-grainer up to 2469 fps MV with 84.0 grains of AA-2230 and 3.680" COL in a 25" barrel.
But that feels like cheating when it is over 3.6" COL.
I am waiting for the weather to break so I can try a lesser amount of AA-2230 at 3.565" COL, after I try the heavily compressed H4895 at 3.595" COL.
Hijack off, back to the .458 WM thread with me.


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awesome stuff right here!!

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Lovely iron gentlemen. Seeing these serious rifles with iron sights makes all the naked ones look like range toys. You know, no one has found King Solomon's Mines yet. You got the hardware for the trip.

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