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I have R700 customs in 7Rem mag, 220 swift, 22PPC, 223, 2-204R, 2-20 VT, 17Rem, and 17 FB. And two more 223s in the making. Some had the actions trued, most did not. They’re all very accurate shooters. In all cases, I had a quality gunsmith take a rifle apart, and build the above. Would have been better off with custom Rem 700 clones? I don’t know, but I’m sure pleased with the ones I have.


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once you cycle a borden or defiance maybe others the cost factor goes away a little bit more compared to a remington

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It's $575 for a Mack Bros Evo Stainless action.

20 moa rail
Indexed recoil lug
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Threaded on and pinned bolt handle that's threaded for knobs
External bolt stop

Probably don't have to bush the firing pin either.

Not a hard sell really.


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I’m getting ready to start on a 22CM soon. I was looking for a Tikka action but the price on the Mack is intriguing.

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I'm w/ aalf...I have a closet full of Remingtons that have always shot very well. If you're a hunter it's wasted money. powdr

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Originally Posted by powdr
I'm w/ aalf...I have a closet full of Remingtons that have always shot very well. If you're a hunter it's wasted money. powdr


Yep, and out of the 100’s of 700’s owned, and pards, I’ve never heard/seen a “bushed” firing pin, other than here, but there’s lotsa [bleep] wrote here that’s yet to be seen.. I do hear it makes a rifle more accurate though. 😂😂


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Originally Posted by Judman
Originally Posted by powdr
I'm w/ aalf...I have a closet full of Remingtons that have always shot very well. If you're a hunter it's wasted money. powdr


Yep, and out of the 100’s of 700’s owned, and pards, I’ve never heard/seen a “bushed” firing pin, other than here, but there’s lotsa [bleep] wrote here that’s yet to be seen.. I do hear it makes a rifle more accurate though. 😂😂



Bushing the firing pin is not an unusual or odd thing...Sure makes a difference when running small rifle primers in a .473 cartridge.

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Like I said, I’ve been around and literally owned hundreds of 700’s, and have never heard or seen anyone bush a bolt. Maybe cause I run with killers and skinny Jean flatbill crowd?? Either way, never seen or heard of it other than online.


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Out of the hundreds of 700's you've been around have you never seen one that would crater primers with loads known not to be hot?

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Nope, never.. not 1


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But I’ve also never seen a bolt handle fall off one either.


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As much as I enjoy my many 700's I have a couple that crater more than I'd like, and I have had to have one handle put back on.

Before anybody asks, no, the handle was not and had never been whacked or pried on.

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The custom makers know the price point required to make any reasonable guy turn his nose up to Remington.
It’s not a difficult decision for a new build.

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Never had a bolt handle fall off but I've had 2 223s that cratered primers pretty bad, even popped a couple in one rifle.

The loads were in no way hot

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Originally Posted by mathman
As much as I enjoy my many 700's I have a couple that crater more than I'd like, and I have had to have one handle put back on.

Before anybody asks, no, the handle was not and had never been whacked or pried on.


Never been a fan of Remingtons bolt knobs they look like those disgusting candies in 90 year old ladies Christmas candy dishes.

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Since nothing is considered equal...If a guy has a Remington action *trued* for the same reason a custom receiver is trued, and the bolt firing pin is bushed and lugs lapped.

Have we arrived at equal to a custom action?

No taking into consideration the plethora of specific features offered by individual actions makers.

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Most of my "builds" or as some would say parts rifles are 700's. I have no issues with any, except one 700 I bought on-line that had the trigger way adjusted wrong and had the barreled action glued into the stock.
I like the bolt handle as it is, to me it is what a bolt handle should look like.


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Originally Posted by Bugger
Most of my "builds" or as some would say parts rifles are 700's. I have no issues with any, except one 700 I bought on-line that had the trigger way adjusted wrong and had the barreled action glued into the stock.
I like the bolt handle as it is, to me it is what a bolt handle should look like.



I agree wholeheartedly...


I'm sure the custom actions are great, but I personally think most of them look like garbage. Of all the bolt handles and shrouds....I like 700s the best.

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Depends on your perspective......

There isn't a gun I have that's not expendable. In fact, more often then not, it's going down the road for something else shinier.

If you already own the action, and it's your "forever" build, and or it holds some personal value, in the long run, the cost of truing is a moot point. If you're gonna flip it, it'll be money down the drain. If you build on a custom and flip it, you'll lose too. I just proved that point trying to peddle a custom on a Bat action. I decided to keep it & flip a different 700, than to lose my ass on the full custom.

I feel I'm capable enough on load work to get most of the goodie out of a stock action build, that a trued action would be hard to improve on enough to drop the coin on.

Whatever blows your skirt up, as there's no wrong answer......

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Originally Posted by Judman
Like I said, I’ve been around and literally owned hundreds of 700’s, and have never heard or seen anyone bush a bolt. Maybe cause I run with killers and skinny Jean flatbill crowd?? Either way, never seen or heard of it other than online.


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I did decide to build a 223AI on a 700, ordered a new action from Buds. Got the thing up and running and it cratered and pierced primers with standard 223 loads. The best I can do is 2700 fps with an 80 gr. bullet, so now I need to send the bolt off to get bushed.
Kicking myself for not sticking with Savage.


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