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Most of my "builds" or as some would say parts rifles are 700's. I have no issues with any, except one 700 I bought on-line that had the trigger way adjusted wrong and had the barreled action glued into the stock.
I like the bolt handle as it is, to me it is what a bolt handle should look like. I agree wholeheartedly... I'm sure the custom actions are great, but I personally think most of them look like garbage. Of all the bolt handles and shrouds....I like 700s the best. Ugly chicks need love to I guess. I’m really interested in the Mack bros evo they look pretty cool in the picture I have seen. Hope some day I can get one. Those Mauserfields kinda have my eye as well. I think it would be a pretty great start for. 9.3 nosler.
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Most of my "builds" or as some would say parts rifles are 700's. I have no issues with any, except one 700 I bought on-line that had the trigger way adjusted wrong and had the barreled action glued into the stock.
I like the bolt handle as it is, to me it is what a bolt handle should look like. I agree wholeheartedly... I'm sure the custom actions are great, but I personally think most of them look like garbage. Of all the bolt handles and shrouds....I like 700s the best. Then screw a carbon fiber barrel on em, they look real dumb.
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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It's $575 for a Mack Bros Evo Stainless action.
20 moa rail
Indexed recoil lug
Nitrided bolt
Threaded on and pinned bolt handle that's threaded for knobs
External bolt stop
Probably don't have to bush the firing pin either.
Not a hard sell really.
Those do look interesting, I (like most) wish they were good to go with barrel nuts.
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It's $575 for a Mack Bros Evo Stainless action.
20 moa rail
Indexed recoil lug
Nitrided bolt
Threaded on and pinned bolt handle that's threaded for knobs
External bolt stop
Probably don't have to bush the firing pin either.
Not a hard sell really.
Those do look interesting, I (like most) wish they were good to go with barrel nuts. I forgot they have an M16 extractor too. Maybe even a few more features that Jud never heard of until he got on the 24hcf.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Naw, I've heard of that feature, from the flatbill , Sitka gear crew... Never seen or heard of"besides online" of a Remington extractor breaking either... That's one thing about the www, some hardcore folks to be found.
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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Never had a bolt handle fall off but I've had 2 223s that cratered primers pretty bad, even popped a couple in one rifle.
The loads were in no way hot
Folks who actually shoot,notice things that exist,while those who "shoot" their Imaginations and Pretend do not. Mainly because they can not. Hint.(grin) I've only had a coupla dozen 700 bolts bushed,mainly because I prefer LRP's when an option. Hint. Typical .378" S/A OEM Big Green scenario. Tolerance woes,as opposed to "pressure" and positive headspace a given. Note outer primer radius. Hint. ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/706/mzrl.jpg) Same Lot of ammo,in same rifle,after Greg's work. Hint.(grin) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/809/v0dj.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/703/jibq.jpg) Re-purposed O/F R/P Bulk,in formed cases. Though I haven't shot said rifle in but a coupla days.(grin) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/923/xAuo0z.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/bNAZNc.jpg) ![[Linked Image from imagizer.imageshack.com]](https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1280x1024q90/924/Jm2THO.jpg) Now as an over the counter NIB OEM 700 receiver goes,I'm at ease in procuring same and going James spout for the win,less fanfare...assuming LRP. Hint.....................
Brad says: "Can't fault Rick for his pity letting you back on the fire... but pity it was and remains. Nothing more, nothing less. A sad little man in a sad little dream."
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If one wants custom features that can't be got on modified 700s well you got to pay for them in a clone..but if primary objective is to save money by compromizing on what features and specs you desire in a custom then stick with a factory unit... btw: one can also save dollars by staying away from cut rifle barrels and McM stocks and silly cosmetic schitt like cerakote... 
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I prefer the older ones and I have a few.....
Since 86 I have had to replace one extractor.. 280AI..after 10 years of hard use I had a case fail to extract.. happened in the run up to deer season had it replaced and used it for about 7 years after without issue.
Never needed to bush any firing pinholes. This with several flavors of SRP cases . Never felt the need.
I have 700s with originally equipment bolts. And several with PTG bolts depends on the application..
Only bolt handle I ever had fall off was on a PTG bolt..I developed a taste for teardrop bolt handles... The PTG one did not survive the machining process... So I did not get burned in the field. . I have several 700 bolts that have been tig welded. Again depends on application.And how I'm holding my mouth that day..
Can't actually say for sure how many I have right now but I have the treatment done on every single one. With out fail. I'm not going to go to the trouble and expensive of a rebarrel job and not KNOW that the receiver isn't all it should be. I've had two that that were let's say messed up.
I consider it money well spent..
Dave
![[Linked Image]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Logo_Schmidt_%26_Bender.jpg) Only accurate rifles are interesting.
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What is the Mack Bros action for $575? I don't see that on their website.
Thanks,
kstockfo
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Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Wow! That is significantly cheaper than anything else that I've seen, which makes me wonder about their quality... I've not heard this company spoken of much either, are there other owners that recommend them? My primary purpose is whitetails and paper-punching. I know that I don't REQUIRE top notch quality (for whitetails under 300 yards), but for pride of ownership I'd like to take a step up in quality from factory.
Thanks for all opinions,
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I don't have first-hand experience with them, but one or two guys here have them and speak well of them. The company is a state-of-the-art CNC and EDM manufacturing company with in-house nitriding ability.
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I can’t speak to the Mac brothers, but the defiance an ti checks a lot of boxes - and the quality is outstanding.
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Mac Bros has been making actions for GAP Rifles for years.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Those cool threaded bolts, side bolt releases and m 16 extractors sure are handy!!! 🤭😂
Oooops, and fluted bolts!!! Haha
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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I bet Beave was more than $575 into the action he had squared, bolt fluted and slicked.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
Ecc 10:2
The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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Ya I bet he does. That bolt fluting, m 16 extractor, side bolt release and bushed bolt really helps in the killing department. Add turrets, shooting just a smidge, and some tape, a guy will rule the world!! If he ever "hunts".... 😂😂
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Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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nothing wrong with a 700..still have 2 that were reworked and shoot as well as my customs.but to say a defiance rebel and others dont have the aesthetics and nice look of a remington i feel is off base.maybe cause of the price point.
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judman.different strokes for different folks.as stated nothing wrong with remingtons.but customs offer more when all considered.40 years ago i shot factory remingtons and winchester model 70 pre 64.rifles..i know a older retired riflesmith named richard franklin.he was in virginia.he tested rem actions with the lugs machined many thousands off on one side from the other...lug engaged on one side only.other side off as much as 16teenth of a inch.no contact.you see they shot 1.5" groups at a 100 yds.long story short barrels are more important for accuracy than a action..that being said if you have a rem blueprinted and trued correctly they will shoot with any custom..its all about what people want or need..godspeed and great hunting to all the true americans on our forums. .
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Oh come on Jud, I bet Beaver hunts as much as he wants.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the 24HCF.
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