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It looked cut, but it wasn’t Al Biesen quality of checkering. I hate to ask, but what difference does it make if it’s cut or pressed? I took a couple of quick pics last night. I’d post them, but Postimage must be down. Pressed checkering is ugly, hand checkering is beautiful!
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This is definitely cut, just not as nice as I’ve seen. It will be fun to hunt with regardless, I’m very eager to try it with a few different bullets.
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Hey all I'm new her, y'all seem like a great bunch.
I never knew much about 99s untill my friend traded me his for some AR parts.
I've fallen down the rabbit hole and I'd love if any of you could tell me about my new rifle.
The serial is 305,2XX chambered in 300sav It's a takedown model with a pistol grip stock
I'm suspecting is has been refinished because a chip in the stock appears to be finished over.
Other than the chipped stock and worn bluing it has matching serials
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sounds like a nice G model to me. late 20's early 30's? you can't post here without pictures
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Welcome to the campfire, Nordik! As stated, it sounds like you have a 99G which came with a pistol grip, checkering and takedown. I agree with Joe that the serial number is 1928, but VERY early 1928 - I have 1927 ending at 305,000.
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[img] http://imgur.com/a/nkxJeIa[/img] Hers some pics, excuse the model 70 Any idea on a value? I'm just looking to justify using it as a woods banger instead of a safe queen Secondly, would it be bad form to add a tang peep sight? Thanks!
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What year would a 99 with serial number 91765 be made in?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Three sources I Checked say 1909, and I have long been under the impression that the change on the cocking indicator and rear of bolt and the jump to 90000 serial number occurred in 1909.
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Interesting - I just pulled up the handy-dandy spreadsheet I downloaded from the facebook gang and used that.
In Murray's footnotes on the individual model pages he says the 90K change came in 1908 but his chart in the back on 3-84 shows different??
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What year would a 99 with serial number 91765 be made in?
Thanks in advance for your help. Any specific rifle may ship in a 3 or 6 month window, but rifles with your serial seem to first show up around August, 1908.
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David’s book says 1909 in the section that discusses the bolt changes. Maybe he will weigh in with his source.
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My dates are based on ledger pages. I’ve seen the ledger page that’s 100 serial numbers higher than 91765.
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I used a number of sources for the serial #'s. I'm not sure but that range may have come from the NRA data. Murray's data says (p. 3-84) "Serial Numbers at Year End:". the first entry shows 10,000 and 1899. We know that 10,000 was either very late 1898 or early 1899. This makes the rest of his early data suspect although he and I are in agreement by 1908.
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Murray’s data sucks up through most years prior to WWI (1917). Not his fault, pretty strong evidence exists that Savage provided those bad numbers to him for printing.
We’ve been using American Rifleman data for years for any dates 1899-1917, it’s far better. Even there I’ve been getting improvements through ledger pages shared with me, analysis of hundreds of letter dates, and new info.
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keep up the good work Rory. I knew the data was suspect when I wrote the collector's guide but went with what I could find.
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So, I assume the bolt and cocking indicator change still occured at 90,000, but you’re saying that was in 1908, not 1909?
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Correct. The 1899 bolt/receiver/etc happened at 90.000, which was June, 1908. They jumped forward to 90.000 and skipped over some numbers at that time.
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New to this site but I have read all the posts with regard to serial numbers. I do need some clarification on the mfg. date of a 99A that was part of my oldest brother's estate.
The FFL that shipped it from OH to AZ said it was early thirties but from reading this site it would be late seventies or early eighties. If I understood what I was reading. Which is suspect.
The rifle, .308, is in very, good condition and functions without hiccups. I'm pretty excited to own this in that it was my brother's and it is such a sweet looking lever action.
Any help with a mfg. year would be appreciated. D3490XX.
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