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Jordan, LRTS, i saw the bulet hit him, using the little 6.5 Swede and 147 Horn, he spun a couple circles and made the 15 yards through the North fence, died in the rocks and sawbriars, i didn't crawl through for the autopsy.

Coyote hit at 588 is good stuff!

Thanks MtnBoomer, little hash marks a bit busy with him standing in brush of the same dang color, if those sombucks wouldn't move, we'd never see em.

lololol. That was funny.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about as usual. I have killed more big game with a ffp scope than you will likely even see. They work just fine. If you are going to dial, and/ or hold for wind, then a ffp scope is a great asset. If not, then a sfp scope will likely work just fine for all of your hunting needs.

Nice work! What was it about the scope that you struggled with?

+1

But I would modify it a bit. If you are going to use the reticle as a ruler for any reason, then FFP is a great asset.

The hash marks and the coyote standing in that old tall yellow range grass and general dead brown brush, he was hard to clean up in there Jordan, went back and looked at the same spot through my NF with NP-1 reticle, a lot cleaner to me, i know, old school, but damn i like it.

I dont shoot further than i can twist, so all the extra ups are of no use to me, if you care to see how i gauge wind, go down to the BPCR forum and look under the Bagwell Eulogy thread, Pacecars posted up a couple youtube vids for me, one is shooting a 152 year old original 45-110 Sharps buffalo rifle at 700 yards with barrel ladder sights in a guesstimated 12-15 mph full value crosswind, i held near 8 feet into that East wind shooting dew North.

The 514gr paper patch bullet over Lord Black landed a bit high and right of the 13 inch bullseye, the gong in 3'x3', still a dead buffalo, and that's what those old rifles were made for.

Thanks. Makes sense, as the center of the LRTS reticle is extra fine, even compared to the LRHS or LRTSi. To me the LRTS is more of a good light/clear background type of scope, while the LRHS and LRTSi are better suited to difficult lighting conditions and tough backgrounds that are common in hunting scenarios. I really like the LRTS for a steel/play rifle, though.

You bet, that 147 Horn tagged his ribs hard too, a lot of pink bubbly going under the barbed wire, i wouldn't hesitate a big buck or pig with that scope/rifle/load, i've underestimated that bullet more than once in the wind on home steel.

Over the last 3 years, since I began experimenting with an LRHS/LRHSi and getting accustomed to FFP, I've found the above from Jordan and atse (obviously not cummins) to be 100% spot on while culling a couple hundred pigs and about 50 whitetail does. Lot's to like about FFP in the field I've found.

Field? Not playground?

Threads like this make me envious that I don't have a place to do long range plinking, training and hunting.

Exactly. And I don't like it when they are turned up. With 2nd plane the reticle gets smaller as one turns up the magnification.

Relative to the target. To the eye, it stays the same size.

Ohhh chit, ooohhhh chit, is that a three-point or a spike? Ohhhhhhh.. Hurrrryyyy.. Ohhhh chit... Oooh chit. Gossssshh... Ooooohhh. Ohhh fuuuckyeah... Ooooohhhh I'm gonna kiiilllll it.........

OHHH CHIT - oh it's some gal jogging! Safety on...

sounds more like a tranny jogging if counting points!

???? I think you have that backwards. Like Vic is suggesting, the reticle only gets smaller relative to the target when magnification goes up in a SFP.

In FFP, the reticle size (or more appropriately, appearance of size) changes along with the magnification, and carries the same subtension throughout the power range.

Every scope gives up something, just because you can use a 40mm tube 8-32x56 ffp scope that is 3 pounds. Yeah it will work on a deer hunt. But it’s not the best scope for the job. Just like a 1-4x scope isn’t good for load development.

Love the comments about using the reticle as a ruler, you dipchits must shoot stationary deer. If I miss they typically run off. I am also shooting from a field rest and there is most likely going to have recoil blow me off target and me not be able to spot my hit or in this case miss. The guys saying this crap are range wanna bes.

Ffp or sfp. Both have an advantage and disadvantage. Those that cant sum it up like that and say ffp is the only scope to get don’t know shat from shinola. Go ahead attack the messenger with insults and not debate or facts. I am the luckiest guy in town if you knew me and the life I lead outside the forums. and could care less about your insults and don’t need anyone’s approval

Nobody ranges off a reticle anymore. Everyone uses laser rangefinder.