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The more i live the more i give up on this world, The confusion and separation is so much. it is all we know.
Live a Godly live and help each other. Its as simple as that.
The bible is so relevant today because most of its prophesies are happening before our eyes. God help us all.
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Haha, you guys wanna talk about sheep!!! It appears there's a bunch here!! 😂😂😂
Ping pong balls for the win.
Once you've wrestled everything else in life is easy. Dan Gable
I keep my circle small, I’d rather have 4 quarters than 100 pennies.
Ain’t easy havin pals.
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You ever hear of The Old Testament?
What we call the Old Testament didn't exist under one cover till about the Fourth Century AD. They were a collection of scriptures, and churches disagreed as to which ones should be called sacred, i.e., canonical, and which apocryphal, and which merely to be respected. What did Jesus refer to when He told the Jews, "You search the Scriptures...?" Scriptures. "The Old Testament" isn't one to one equatable with "Scriptures," as I thought I explained. In fact, Protestants and Catholics don't even agree on what books belong in "The Old Testament." Jews didn't even have anything called that. They had scriptures of varying levels of importance to them, and not considered one book. I don't think they called it the Old Testament. But I think you are reading some weird material
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Many people have what they call 'truth,' yet cannot agree amongst themselves on what that may be. It’s called human nature. It is human nature. Which doesn't change the obvious: not everyone who feels they have the truth actually has the truth. That logically many, if not most believers, are mistaken in their belief.
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It was wrong the first time and it was wrong the next. What makes you think it's true?
I reformulated it to be easier to understand. Try it now. I've lost interest. Sorry. Maybe you can try again later.
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Let’s see...God made me, he gave me a palm-and that opposing thumb gift-and directed me to work to multiply my talents, or gifts, and not sit on my ass. And now we have figured out how to use that talent to grow and prosper.
The Beav is right...you are a lun-a-tic..
You used your identifier to have the computer go live, then you used another to sign on here.....the devil made you do it....
(In addition, false prophets really piss God off....you best be careful)
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laissez les bons temps rouler
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There's an interesting theory in physics that says something to the effect that time stretches. It makes 200 year old people and 7 day creations possible. Now there's an interesting idea if I've ever heard one. That explains Methushael and 969 years. We already know from atomic clocks that time is relative. The faster the clock container moves, the slower the clock gets relative to one fixed on Earth. https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-the-famous-twin-paradox-of-special-relativity-explained
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2nd Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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I don't think they called it the Old Testament. But I think you are reading some weird material
You're just lacking in some education.
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I personally believe that God was the spark.
He was the big bang so to speak.
Its as believable or even more so as the other "big bang" theory.
I am MAGA.
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Christianity in this modern era just doesn't have a leg to stand on. 2.5 billion believers in Christianity in the world today would likely disagree with your point of view regarding this. Many of them devotedly ascribe to the life and teachings of Jesus.....and believing that He is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, and then chronicled in the New Testament, and believing that Jesus was/is the Son of God who ministered, suffered, and died on a cross, and rose from the dead for the salvation of mankind.....and their belief and commitment to Jesus is at the heart and center of their lives. The New Testament isn’t a book, it’s actually a small library of 27 different books, written by different authors with different backgrounds and different perspectives, who individually chose which information they decided to emphasize and which information they decided to omit, with different ways of telling the story of the person...in this case, Jesus...whose life they are documenting. You go to your local library and see 27 different books on ‘any’ historical figure...in ancient history or modern history...and those different books are written by different authors with different backgrounds and different perspectives, who individually chose which information they decided to emphasize and which information they decided to omit, with different ways of telling the story of the person whose life they are documenting...whether it’s Julius Caesar or Douglas MacArthur. And none of those differences mentioned above diminish the reality and the historicity of the person they are writing about in any way whatsoever. When people discredit the New Testament, they’re not discrediting a book, they’re discrediting 27 different books. The same as to discredit 27 different books about Julius Caesar, or to discredit 27 different books about Douglas MacArthur, because of the differences mentioned above. And, even if ‘no’ books were ‘ever’ written about Julius Caesar, or Douglas MacArthur...for example..., that in no way whatsoever diminishes their reality and historicity. They existed, they were real, and the events of their lives happened. And this isn’t so because of the books that were written about them; books were written about them because this is so. It is the same with Jesus.
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Christianity in this modern era just doesn't have a leg to stand on. 2.5 billion believers in Christianity in the world today would likely disagree with your point of view regarding this. Many of them devotedly ascribe to the life and teachings of Jesus.....and believing that He is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, and then chronicled in the New Testament, and believing that Jesus was/is the Son of God who ministered, suffered, and died on a cross, and rose from the dead for the salvation of mankind.....and their belief and commitment to Jesus is at the heart and center of their lives. The New Testament isn’t a book, it’s actually a small library of 27 different books, written by different authors with different backgrounds and different perspectives, who individually chose which information they decided to emphasize and which information they decided to omit, with different ways of telling the story of the person...in this case, Jesus...whose life they are documenting. You go to your local library and see 27 different books on ‘any’ historical figure...in ancient history or modern history...and those different books are written by different authors with different backgrounds and different perspectives, who individually chose which information they decided to emphasize and which information they decided to omit, with different ways of telling the story of the person whose life they are documenting...whether it’s Julius Caesar or Douglas MacArthur. And none of those differences mentioned above diminish the reality and the historicity of the person they are writing about in any way whatsoever. When people discredit the New Testament, they’re not discrediting a book, they’re discrediting 27 different books. The same as to discredit 27 different books about Julius Caesar, or to discredit 27 different books about Douglas MacArthur, because of the differences mentioned above. And, even if ‘no’ books were ‘ever’ written about Julius Caesar, or Douglas MacArthur...for example..., that in no way whatsoever diminishes their reality and historicity. They existed, they were real, and the events of their lives happened. And this isn’t so because of the books that were written about them; books were written about them because this is so. It is the same with Jesus. I agree with him. Christianity was about saving one's soul and loving each other but now. its something else. I sort a relationship with God and not to be known n the church or Contributing money to some rich pastor who owns several private Jets.
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"Only Christ is the fullness of God's revelation."
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I personally believe that God was the spark.
He was the big bang so to speak.
Its as believable or even more so as the other "big bang" theory.
Wait, are you making sense again?
The desert is a true treasure for him who seeks refuge from men and the evil of men.
In it is contentment
In it is death and all you seek
(Quoted from "The Bleeding of the Stone" Ibrahim Al-Koni)
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More alien gray technology.
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2.5 billion believers in Christianity in the world today would likely disagree with your point of view regarding this.
Many of them devotedly ascribe to the life and teachings of Jesus.....and believing that He is the Messiah prophesied in the Hebrew Bible, .
Non-Christian Antlers keeps throwing that 2.5 B around like its legit...
And, even if ‘no’ books were ‘ever’ written about Julius Caesar, or Douglas MacArthur...for example..., that in no way whatsoever diminishes their reality and historicity. They existed, they were real, and the events of their lives happened. .....
It is the same with Jesus.
It's recorded Julius Caesar was a real deal god, so it must be true. It should be noted modern scholars of history don't take everything recorded in antiquity about Julius Caesar as being true and accurate , and the same applies to your Jesus.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
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Christianity was about saving one's soul and loving each other but now it’s something else. I sought a relationship with God and not to be known in the church or Contributing money to some rich pastor who owns several private Jets. Not disagreeing with your perception above. But none of that changes the tenets of Christianity itself. They still are what they’ve always been.
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2nd Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
That's powerful Jim.....and so true these days more than when I started wondering about the times ahead.
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Back in the 80s I got saved and started taking interest in the Bible. When I watched some of the low budget Christian movies on the subject, I thought that it would likely be either an advanced microchip implant like they used for tracking wildlife, or perhaps what we see in the Amazon One commercial. Right now, even though I can't say 100% for sure until all lines up, it looks like it's mighty close to me.
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The first generation of Christians believed the prophesy was meant for them.
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