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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 No. Not trying. I am accepting sober history.
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit.
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Righteous judgment can only mean one thing you are using God's word as the judgment standard. God's word. As written by whom again? And interpreted by...you? As written by God through special men. Apparently "judge not" doesn't need interpretation. So it stands to reason "judge with righteous judgment" is just as clear. That is to those who are not "willfully ignorant." I had not considered the Special Men - hard to logic my way out of that one. Food for thought, thank you. On the topic of special boys, are you familiar with Joseph Smith? He was a very special boy. He received a record of sorts from an angel on some hill in BFE, NY. Gold tablets in a special angel language that only he could understand. He translated them and began to convert people. Some of the folks wanted to see the tablets, unfortunately he lost them. NOT to worry though, he promised he wouldn't lie about something important like the written word of god. Fast forward we now have the LDS and special undies. Try to prove something from the Bible wrong. Many who try become converts to Christianity. Like Dr. Kindell says, "We would have a lot more serious converts if we had more serious sceptics."
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit. It's true.
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit. It's true. No, moron. It's bullshit.
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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 No. Not trying. I am accepting sober history. So, what factual evidence do you have? It would be nice to see, as it would negate the need for faith.
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Righteous judgment can only mean one thing you are using God's word as the judgment standard. God's word. As written by whom again? And interpreted by...you? As written by God through special men. Apparently "judge not" doesn't need interpretation. So it stands to reason "judge with righteous judgment" is just as clear. That is to those who are not "willfully ignorant." I had not considered the Special Men - hard to logic my way out of that one. Food for thought, thank you. On the topic of special boys, are you familiar with Joseph Smith? He was a very special boy. He received a record of sorts from an angel on some hill in BFE, NY. Gold tablets in a special angel language that only he could understand. He translated them and began to convert people. Some of the folks wanted to see the tablets, unfortunately he lost them. NOT to worry though, he promised he wouldn't lie about something important like the written word of god. Fast forward we now have the LDS and special undies. Try to prove something from the Bible wrong. Many who try become converts to Christianity. Like Dr. Kindell says, "We would have a lot more serious converts if we had more serious sceptics." Try to prove something from the Koran wrong. I'll wait.
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goalie,
If you are seriously interested, you could read some books about that time period.
And if you are really interested you can find flaws in the Book of Mormans and the koran just as easily.
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goalie,
If you are seriously interested, you could read some books about that time period.
And if you are really interested you can find flaws in the Book of Mormans and the koran just as easily. Still waiting.
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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 No. Not trying. I am accepting sober history. So, what factual evidence do you have? It would be nice to see, as it would negate the need for faith. It's all about faith my friend. We are commanded to tell you about it. Whether or mot you believe is up to you.
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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 No. Not trying. I am accepting sober history. So, what factual evidence do you have? It would be nice to see, as it would negate the need for faith. It's all about faith my friend. We are commanded to tell you about it. Whether or mot you believe is up to you. See, that's fine by me. But others are stating "fact" not "faith." Words have meaning.
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit. It's true. No, moron. It's bullshit. Moron? You should check the facts, not just resort to childish insults in the security of your anonymity. If you think it's BS, you should explain why.
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit. It's true. I heard he was baptized Catholic but outgrew it at some point in his early adulthood......sorta like Joe Biden.
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Righteous judgment can only mean one thing you are using God's word as the judgment standard. God's word. As written by whom again? And interpreted by...you? As written by God through special men. Apparently "judge not" doesn't need interpretation. So it stands to reason "judge with righteous judgment" is just as clear. That is to those who are not "willfully ignorant." I had not considered the Special Men - hard to logic my way out of that one. Food for thought, thank you. On the topic of special boys, are you familiar with Joseph Smith? He was a very special boy. He received a record of sorts from an angel on some hill in BFE, NY. Gold tablets in a special angel language that only he could understand. He translated them and began to convert people. Some of the folks wanted to see the tablets, unfortunately he lost them. NOT to worry though, he promised he wouldn't lie about something important like the written word of god. Fast forward we now have the LDS and special undies. Try to prove something from the Bible wrong. Many who try become converts to Christianity. Like Dr. Kindell says, "We would have a lot more serious converts if we had more serious sceptics." Try to prove something from the Koran wrong. I'll wait. Koran? Quran..and that one's easy. The Quran states King Saul fought with the Midianites, while Gideon fought against the Philistines. This is clearly not correct according to the old testament. The "translator " scrambled the stories. The Scriptures state that it requires spiritual discernment to understand the words on the page. "He that has ears to hear let him hear". Moreover the Scriptures also state that if any man lacks wisdom concerning these things let him ask God for help, and God will answer a genuine request for help.
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Righteous judgment can only mean one thing you are using God's word as the judgment standard. God's word. As written by whom again? And interpreted by...you? As written by God through special men. Apparently "judge not" doesn't need interpretation. So it stands to reason "judge with righteous judgment" is just as clear. That is to those who are not "willfully ignorant." I had not considered the Special Men - hard to logic my way out of that one. Food for thought, thank you. On the topic of special boys, are you familiar with Joseph Smith? He was a very special boy. He received a record of sorts from an angel on some hill in BFE, NY. Gold tablets in a special angel language that only he could understand. He translated them and began to convert people. Some of the folks wanted to see the tablets, unfortunately he lost them. NOT to worry though, he promised he wouldn't lie about something important like the written word of god. Fast forward we now have the LDS and special undies. Try to prove something from the Bible wrong. Many who try become converts to Christianity. Like Dr. Kindell says, "We would have a lot more serious converts if we had more serious sceptics." The contradictions, absurdities and failed prophesies are well established. The timeline of creation, no world flood, etc, etc.....
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Righteous judgment can only mean one thing you are using God's word as the judgment standard. God's word. As written by whom again? And interpreted by...you? As written by God through special men. Apparently "judge not" doesn't need interpretation. So it stands to reason "judge with righteous judgment" is just as clear. That is to those who are not "willfully ignorant." I had not considered the Special Men - hard to logic my way out of that one. Food for thought, thank you. On the topic of special boys, are you familiar with Joseph Smith? He was a very special boy. He received a record of sorts from an angel on some hill in BFE, NY. Gold tablets in a special angel language that only he could understand. He translated them and began to convert people. Some of the folks wanted to see the tablets, unfortunately he lost them. NOT to worry though, he promised he wouldn't lie about something important like the written word of god. Fast forward we now have the LDS and special undies. Try to prove something from the Bible wrong. Many who try become converts to Christianity. Like Dr. Kindell says, "We would have a lot more serious converts if we had more serious sceptics." Try to prove something from the Koran wrong. I'll wait. Koran? Quran..and that one's easy. The Quran states King Saul fought with the Midianites, while Gideon fought against the Philistines. This is clearly not correct according to the old testament. The "translator " scrambled the stories. The Scriptures state that it requires spiritual discernment to understand the words on the page. "He that has ears to hear let him hear". Moreover the Scriptures also state that if any man lacks wisdom concerning these things let him ask God for help, and God will answer a genuine request for help. So, I can use one religion's book to " prove" another religion's book wrong? Just wanting to clarify, because it'll be fun.
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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 No. Not trying. I am accepting sober history. So, what factual evidence do you have? It would be nice to see, as it would negate the need for faith. It's all about faith my friend. We are commanded to tell you about it. Whether or mot you believe is up to you. See, that's fine by me. But others are stating "fact" not "faith." Words have meaning. Works for me.
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What, specifically, are you stating is "fact" that can be objectively verified and doesn't require faith to believe?
Just as evidence is presented in court one can present evidence from history. The most documented fact of history prior to the printing press is the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. Both protagonist and antagonist gave opinions about the time Christianity starter. No one challenged His histoity. Um, you're trying to say the resurrection, not just the life, of Jesus of Nazareth is historical fact???? 😂 He also believes the world is only 6,000 years old. You are dealing with a hard core YEC here.
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
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Noted infamous evolutionists like Adolph Hitler..... Hitler was Catholic.....Just saying. Bullshit. It's true. I heard he was baptized Catholic but outgrew it at some point in his early adulthood......sorta like Joe Biden. He professed to be a Catholic. At no time did he recant.
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