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My apology to one and all for spamming. I'm blitzing continuing education classes this week and am a bit limited on my ability to get into a flow of conversation.


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Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by jaguartx
Originally Posted by IZH27
This is aimed at those who name the name of Christ as important and integral to their life.

If your view of others in relation to your view of Christ and yourself cause you to view non-believers or those of another religion in such a way that you dehumanize them, see them in a lesser way than you view yourself, your view of God and yourself is in need of a catastrophic immediate evaluation.


You, being a gutless puke, push the gutless puke narrative. Your inferiority complex leads you to think you are lesser than believers, not the actions of us believers. The inner knowledge ot truth you posess convicts you of this, not us believers. We know there are none who sin as do us, other than those who commit the unpardonable sin and deny HIM.,

Your own concience, HIM, chases and convicts you to your sin, not us.

May GOD bless you as your needs may be, and may HE, your Creator who gave you life and a soul, have mercy on it, as may HE, have with us.

In JESUS'S Holy name we pray.,

Amen


And here's the perfect example of what the OP was talking about.



Bingo! If I'm ever in CO or you are ever in KY I'll by the beer.

I'm a Christian yet I'm dehumanized by someone else who claims faith in Christ being called a "Gutless Puke, push the gutless puke narrative".

The logic and flow of that post still leaves me a bit speechless.


Thank you my friend, I accept. I look forward to it.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by IZH27
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Originally Posted by IZH27
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Originally Posted by IZH27
“...the essence of Christianity.”
What is it, in your estimation...?
I'm not going to attempt to address a snippet of a quote from a post of mine. No context there.
You referred to “the essence of Christianity” here...
Originally Posted by IZH27
I agree with much of what you have observed having observed it and seen the impact of that mentality. I don't believe that such things are examples of Christianity but rather examples of moralism and legalism, neither of which is the essence of Christianity.
I’m asking you, in your estimation, what is “the essence of Christianity...?”
Again. You post a response of mine to another post yet I can't read the other post to contextualize my response.
Is “the essence of Christianity” different, in your estimation, depending upon the context in which it was referred to by you...? Or is “the essence of Christianity”, in your estimation, always the the same, regardless of the context in which it was referred to by you...? Basically, regardless of anything else, I’m asking you what, in your estimation, is “the essence of Christianity”...?


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Originally Posted by DBT
Some like to believe that if someone doesn't subscribe to their brand of Christianity they
are not 'true Christians.'

Hitler was a cherry picker, mashing pagan beliefs with a selection of ideas from the
Bible....


Christianity is composed of ideas sourced from
paganism...(ie).Human sacrifice and Deification
of mere mortals, etc.

We see influence of Hellenistic mystery religions
in O.T. and N.T. scripture.


Originally Posted by NH K9
I'm not willing to do the deep dig for the statements, but they're there.
Pissed off a couple good guys enough that they left.


LoL...prob. snowflakes of dubious Christian identity.
CF ain't for those that bruise so easily.


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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by DBT
A wackjob with a set of insane beliefs, a blend of ideology and religion, which he packaged and sold to a nation, causing untold suffering.

He sold it to a Christian nation (62.7% Protestant, 32.5% Catholics, 4.8% other, 0.8% Jewish in 1933) of willing buyers.


Some describe Jesus as a wackjob rabbi who
saw the world ending very soon...so there's
nothing odd about such believers getting taken
in by another wackjob...and what better way to
get the gullible in than by utilizing their existing
fear, paranoia and superstition based beliefs.

Some here should read about how the German 6th
celebrated Christmas when they were encircled at
Stalingrad at the same time they were conducting
an all out ideological war of death and destruction
and indifference to the immense human suffering
they caused.

The Waffen SS identified as Christian in over 50%
of its members..Himmler relaxing/adjusting his
policy to accommodate them when they protested
his original demands.

Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Originally Posted by flintlocke
Wabi, Religion or no religion, I sense you are a truly good man to your core. Your brand of faith allows you to tolerate us heathens in good humor, ....


Yep.
There are many different christianities, and they are not all equal.


IIRC ,. wabi denigrates other people's gods by
calling them false..which is a really cheap shot.
(but commensurable for such a simpleton.)

He can no more prove such gods as false
than he can prove his god to be real.

Originally Posted by NH K9

When's the last time you saw a frost giant wandering around?
I guess Odin and Thor win in the evidence department.


Norse settled Greenland as pagans where a
Frost Giant would certainly be fitting....then
they converted to Christianity and their settlements
failed, so Jesus and faith wasn't able to help them.
One can still see the crumbled remains of a church.





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Im wondering why the believers are conversing in this thread with the dead.

Do you believers not believe what HE said? HE said to shake their dust of your feet, didn't HE? Like in ashes to ashes and dust to dust.

Didnt HE say to not give pearls to swine. Are they not your enemy who would turn on you and kill you?

They are those of the flesh you consort with who long ago took your forebearers and burned them at the stake along the way and to light the way from their high places to the Coliseum, where their forefathers fed yours to the lions.

Why attend their jolly party of folly? Why wallow with pigs in the mud?

They arent too blind to see the state of their country and govt after they got HIM kicked out of school and government, yet there are those of you who think you will open their eyes.

You believers think you can make satan give his winnings up?

They know the word and the Good News, yet they reject it.

Convers with your own kind on your own thread.

HE has left those you argue with behind. If HE is your Master and you are HIS flock, follow HIM.

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Well Doc, if we can help soften a few hearts--------.


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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Im wondering why the believers are conversing in this thread with the dead.

Do you believers not believe what HE said? HE said to shake their dust of your feet, didn't HE? Like in ashes to ashes and dust to dust.

Didnt HE say to not give pearls to swine. Are they not your enemy who would turn on you and kill you?

They are those of the flesh you consort with who long ago took your forebearers and burned them at the stake along the way and to light the way from their high places to the Coliseum, where their forefathers fed yours to the lions.

Why attend their jolly party of folly? Why wallow with pigs in the mud?

They arent too blind to see the state of their country and govt after they got HIM kicked out of school and government, yet there are those of you who think you will open their eyes.

You believers think you can make satan give his winnings up?

They know the word and the Good News, yet they reject it.

Convers with your own kind on your own thread.

HE has left those you argue with behind. If HE is your Master and you are HIS flock, follow HIM.

Originally Posted by wabigoon
Well Doc, if we can help soften a few hearts--------.


Wabi,

Sure looks to me like there's a lot of hate in Doc's post.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Im wondering why the believers are conversing in this thread with the dead.

Do you believers not believe what HE said? HE said to shake their dust of your feet, didn't HE? Like in ashes to ashes and dust to dust.

Didnt HE say to not give pearls to swine. Are they not your enemy who would turn on you and kill you?

They are those of the flesh you consort with who long ago took your forebearers and burned them at the stake along the way and to light the way from their high places to the Coliseum, where their forefathers fed yours to the lions.

Why attend their jolly party of folly? Why wallow with pigs in the mud?

They arent too blind to see the state of their country and govt after they got HIM kicked out of school and government, yet there are those of you who think you will open their eyes.

You believers think you can make satan give his winnings up?

They know the word and the Good News, yet they reject it.

Convers with your own kind on your own thread.

HE has left those you argue with behind. If HE is your Master and you are HIS flock, follow HIM.


Aaaand right there is a great reason to avoid organized religion and rely on your trusty blaster and Wookie co-pilot

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For the good folks that did not ge
t to church.


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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
Belief in GOD has been used, in a wrong way, by far to many to attain their personal heaven on earth.


That you're here is the bright spot in this thread.



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Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by DBT
Faith is not the way to truth.
Would you kindly explain how and why that statement is truth?
Faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc, etc, have faith in their own version of God or gods and theology, their own 'truth,' but logically they can't all have the truth, what they believe contradicts each other. What is being believed on faith is not necessary true and factual.
Your response is understandable and accurate to some degree - however, you have provided nothing that proves, or even demonstrates, truth in your original statement. It is neither simple, nor easy.


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Pastor Ray Comforts faith told him the Cavendish
banana (a result of hybridization by man) was
designed perfectly that way by his god.

Prime example where faith does not lead to truth.

Keep the flock ignorant and where you want them.


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Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by DBT
Originally Posted by CCCC
Originally Posted by DBT
Faith is not the way to truth.
Would you kindly explain how and why that statement is truth?
Faith is a belief held without the support of evidence. Hindus, Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc, etc, have faith in their own version of God or gods and theology, their own 'truth,' but logically they can't all have the truth, what they believe contradicts each other. What is being believed on faith is not necessary true and factual.
Your response is understandable and accurate to some degree - however, you have provided nothing that proves, or even demonstrates, truth in your original statement. It is neither simple, nor easy.


Did you actually read what he wrote?

'"Faith is a belief held without the support of evidence."


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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CCCC has shown numerous times how
naive and ignorant he is to the everyday
world around him...faith seems to destroy
faculties of reason and logic.


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Originally Posted by Starman
CCCC has shown numerous times how
naive and ignorant he is to the everyday
world around him.

Well, definitions are sometimes difficult to grasp.....

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Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by IZH27
Originally Posted by antlers
Originally Posted by IZH27
“...the essence of Christianity.”
What is it, in your estimation...?
I'm not going to attempt to address a snippet of a quote from a post of mine. No context there.
You referred to “the essence of Christianity” here...
Originally Posted by IZH27
I agree with much of what you have observed having observed it and seen the impact of that mentality. I don't believe that such things are examples of Christianity but rather examples of moralism and legalism, neither of which is the essence of Christianity.
I’m asking you, in your estimation, what is “the essence of Christianity...?”
Again. You post a response of mine to another post yet I can't read the other post to contextualize my response.
Is “the essence of Christianity” different, in your estimation, depending upon the context in which it was referred to by you...? Or is “the essence of Christianity”, in your estimation, always the the same, regardless of the context in which it was referred to by you...? Basically, regardless of anything else, I’m asking you what, in your estimation, is “the essence of Christianity”...?


I want to know too. IZH27 - it was your comment so you should be able to say what you meant by it. You seem to be spending more effort avoiding answering the question than you could by simply answering it.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm
Originally Posted by Raspy
Whatever you said...everyone knows you are a lying jerk.

That's a bold assertion. Point out where you think I lied.

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Originally Posted by jaguartx
Im wondering why the believers are conversing in this thread with the dead.

Do you believers not believe what HE said? HE said to shake their dust of your feet, didn't HE? Like in ashes to ashes and dust to dust.

Didnt HE say to not give pearls to swine. Are they not your enemy who would turn on you and kill you?

They are those of the flesh you consort with who long ago took your forebearers and burned them at the stake along the way and to light the way from their high places to the Coliseum, where their forefathers fed yours to the lions.

Why attend their jolly party of folly? Why wallow with pigs in the mud?

They arent too blind to see the state of their country and govt after they got HIM kicked out of school and government, yet there are those of you who think you will open their eyes.

You believers think you can make satan give his winnings up?

They know the word and the Good News, yet they reject it.

Convers with your own kind on your own thread.

HE has left those you argue with behind. If HE is your Master and you are HIS flock, follow HIM.


You are supporting my Post about judging Christians.


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Originally Posted by mauserand9mm


I want to know too. IZH27 - it was your comment so you should be able to say what you meant by it. You seem to be spending more effort avoiding answering the question than you could by simply answering it.


H27 is behaving no different to how Antlers
avoids answering...ie. Antlers won't tell the CF
if he actually read a book he recommended.
Crazy I know.,

don't count on those of faith having substance.


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