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Keep digging, Starbucks - you're about six feet under by now. Weakly, you now resort to the papal "We" in a dumb attempt to infer that ypu have some universal affirmation of your opinion - such silliness. Is that a naive perception? Now - let's get somewhat serious, I challenge you to search backward and find/post one - a single one - instance where CCCC attempted to employ an iota of "faith" as a shield in the face of any of the baseless attacking by you and a few others. Go ahead - you are going to come up empty. And, please, do not flail around with some senseless and meaningless non-contextual quote.

As for victim status - why do you not learn the difference between a person recognizing your nastiness - and a person laughing it off and refusing to be victim to it? Wake up - you cannot create victims merely by being nasty - you have to get after someone weaker than you. (Good luck there.)

How silly - now you try to deride the various "strong and upstanding persons we find everywhere" in a vain effort support what you "consider". Keep digging.

Wow!..that's a long winded rant by someone
who claims to be unaffected...LoL

Another Holly Roller bunch of religious cussing and personal attacks.

Man, I love these hypocritical bastids.

Looks like you don't get it Starbucks - maybe you are naive and ignorant - some folks get their jollies in the process of exposing you. Still digging?

Exposing ?..LoL..face it you got hurt by my post
but your dumb pride won't allow you to admit it.
Own your ignorance rather than trying to bury it
in faith.

Thanks for providing the way you see it - although the rationale for your differentiation seems overstated and possibly inconsiderate to a degree. Disagreements of this particular nature seem unsolvable by humans, particularly when they become overtly adamant - which was the driver for my original question to that poster.

"firm belief in something for which there is no proof" seems a lot like "...a belief held without the support of evidence."
So, DBT uses a valid definition of faith, and clarified which one he intended, but somehow you are still arguing this is a valid pathway to truth, or are you arguing for a different definition of faith as a pathway to truth?

Wow - now you are going to play God and tell me how I feel? Did you send down a dangerous lightning bolt?
Can you feel the effects of your delusion? Believe me - it is not grandeur. Shovel getting heavy there, Thor?

No god delusion involved..the evidence of your
long winded defensive and deflective posts strongly
suggest you didnt just laugh it off like you want the
CF to believe.

Maybe HE saw fit to sacrifice HIS son to save those who accepted with faith the Good News of HIS saving grace.

Well, if a Christian points to their religious book, and cites chapter and verse as "proof," then it would only be logical that all other religions could do so as well, and cite their own religious writings as "proof."

But, of course, they claim that only their special book is factual, while the other religion's books are lies, fairytales, and pagen mythology. All things other religions, coincidentally, claim about Christianity.......

Citing bible verses is not "proving" your god exists any more than someone from another religion quoting their religion's writings "proves" that their god exists.

I appreciated his post, and I have not argued anything about a definition. If you think I have, please quote my argument. I assume you understand that an ostensible disagreement does not constitute an argument - or, are you looking for one?

Tee Hee. Trying to read minds again? What causes you to think I want the CF to believe anything - at all? Tee Hee. Bye !

No mind reading just post reading,
You sound a bit off the rails, but
possibly just a 'normal' day for you.
Faith drives some folks to all kinds
of weird and wacky mind states.

So which planet do you originate from? The planet delusion from the galaxy avoidance?

You're way overcomplicating this - is this deliberate or from a parable-addled mind?

Uh, may GOD have mercy on the stiff necked masses ought to cover it for the dumbasses.

Look, is GOD a liar or not? Didnt HE say HE puts inherent knowledge in ALL or just in those HE wants to save? Did HE lie when HE said the wonders of HIS creation were there for all to see?

We are but the messenger of HIM. HE alone is the SAVIOUR. We can only plant the seed. HE is the one who makes it grow. He is the one who waters it and makes it sprout and gives it LIGHT.

Too many of us try to do HIS job for HIM. Look around and see how well that has worked out.

Your responsibility is to carry the message. If you dont, their sin falls on you. If they dont accept it, it falls on them. So, be sad for them. You aren't nearly as sad as HIM.

They have free will, by HIS grace, not ours. They have the right to go the way of the world. Who are we to keep pestering them? HE doesnt. HE gave them freedom. HE gave them life. They have their choice. Life or death.

The LORD giveth and HE taketh away.

It seems to me that the rationalist/materialist argument falls short in many areas; here are a few key places:

1) there are a great man things for which science has no explanation and in many instances even lacks the vocabulary with which to describe phenomena

2) if the human race is nothing but the culmination of a series of accidents that have been taking place down through the millennia, there can be no assurance that our rationality is something upon which we can rely

3) one cannot jump from what ought to be from what is; science may be capable of explaining mechanisms which brought about what is, but it cannot from explanation tell us what should be now that we’re here... and yet we all seem to agree upon basic precepts that we could maybe call “the golden rule”

Not exhaustive of my thoughts and I am not in any way claiming these to be original to me but they are a few.

Nor would I have it be assumed that my presentation of these is a mockery of the views of others.

Grace and peace to you all,

Efw

Yeah, your god, but what about the other 2/3+ of the worlds population that believes in something else?

Oh, yeah, your god roasts them for eternity.....

Seems like a great dude. 🙄

Yep. Id prefer HELL to letting a sinner set me to worship my Creator. HE shoulda made me, a believer, better than you, where some of us werent sinners with shortcomings, like you. Good luck.

Tell GOD you told HIM to FO because you knew a believer who was a sinner.