Super interesting thread here. Most of you have strong opinions on things you know little about...shocking. The NCAA isn't pressuring anyone including Governor Noem on this.
The pressure on her is coming from people in Sioux Falls, who think that Sioux Falls is the "Center of the World" and won't be unless they can fill the Sanford Premier Center and the Sanford Pentagon with NCAA tournaments which bring ESPN to town and puts the Sanford Centers front and center on National TV which no one watches EXCEPT the people in Sioux Falls who think that it is the "Center of the World" and require Sioux Falls to be on TV in order to confirm that bias.
Governor Noem needs votes in Sioux Falls next year to get reelected. And there you have it.
Great insight. Thank you. Sounds about right to me.
EXACTLY. Thats my point. Republican sponsored and fully supported bill rejected by the Republican governor. Noem is the one eating her own. This should have been worked out behind closed doors. She may have very valid points that should be dealt with, but without the theatrics of bucking your own party who's taking a very conservative stance. It doesn't surprise me, but I had hoped Noem was different.
Yawl let me know when the states collate. Thats a bunch of BS, which is what really stuck in my crawl.
Super interesting thread here. Most of you have strong opinions on things you know little about...shocking. The NCAA isn't pressuring anyone including Governor Noem on this.
The pressure on her is coming from people in Sioux Falls, who think that Sioux Falls is the "Center of the World" and won't be unless they can fill the Sanford Premier Center and the Sanford Pentagon with NCAA tournaments which bring ESPN to town and puts the Sanford Centers front and center on National TV which no one watches EXCEPT the people in Sioux Falls who think that it is the "Center of the World" and require Sioux Falls to be on TV in order to confirm that bias.
Governor Noem needs votes in Sioux Falls next year to get reelected. And there you have it.
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People are funny. Sioux Falls has made headlines, and national publications as to top notch medical care, quality of life, low taxes and business-friendly environment, low crime, etc. (all true) yet, listening to a local SF radio station all I hear is marketing and wanting to grow SF further.
It seems in America, we always wants to grow everything, never recognizing growing changes the character of most everything, any city, into something not as desirable. It changes.
There’s is now plenty of political, liberal-leftist thinking in Sioux Falls which used to be a nice, big town, but now is a rapidly growing small city.
There’s an old saying: “beware,..better is the enemy of good.”
West River SD has always been far more conservative than the Minnesota-influenced Sioux Falls.
Those people actually think they have downhill skiing.
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EXACTLY. Thats my point. Republican sponsored and fully supported bill rejected by the Republican governor. Noem is the one eating her own. This should have been worked out behind closed doors. She may have very valid points that should be dealt with, but without the theatrics of bucking your own party who's taking a very conservative stance. It doesn't surprise me, but I had hoped Noem was different.
Yawl let me know when the states collate. Thats a bunch of BS, which is what really stuck in my crawl.
Iirc, you mean, "craw".
Ecc 10:2 The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but that of a fool to the left.
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It didn't end any better than it played. She's got some advisors to whom I wouldn't listen. Most of them aren't from here, which is usually a big mistake.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
How was it suppose to play out? She already knew the bill was not going to be revised, and if not she's even worse than I thought.
What does it mean to me? That is a silly question, considering every news outlet is speaking of her in terms of Pres or VP material.
If she folds to one big city in the state, she can never handle what is coming her way on a national level.
The EO was her only move considering the fallout nationally and her future ambitions (for which she recently had another face job btw). How do you reconcile the EO and her being a voice for her base by the "veto"?
Let me know when she heads up the multi state coalition.
Don't forget I'm from the state of the infamously "tough" Jeff Sessions. But wait, Noem is different because she's a hot chic that rodeos. Fool me once......
I think it was supposed to play out as being a big victory for her, and as it turned out, it's anything but that.
I think asking what it means to you is a fine question to ask, your answer gives me a lot of insight as to your position and understanding.
Folds to one big city...meaning her voters? I think that's how its supposed to work isn't it? I think responsive government is better than the alternative, myself. I'm sure you'll agree, upon reflection. She should probably have told the press that is what she was doing. I have watched her staff up close and personal and think they lack the experience and ability to communicate that to the press, myself.
Well no, she made other moves and declined to make some moves. The website, the hastily called press conference, the language in the midday message yesterday. All of that was a choice.
What do you see as "her base?" I think that means South Dakota voters, doesn't it? The same ones who asked for a veto? If you think someone outside this state is her base, then I guess I disagree with that.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
What do you see as "her base?" I think that means South Dakota voters, doesn't it? The same ones who asked for a veto? If you think someone outside this state is her base, then I guess I disagree with that.
Base = South Dakota voters AND legislators. If 99% of the state geographically has a solid position, including the vast majority of legislators, I consider that her base.
Here's a flavor of where the opposition and the veto came from. I'm sure its hard for alot of you to come to grips with this, but yes it was the Republican business community that asked most fervently for the veto.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (KELO.com) — The head of the South Dakota Chamber of Commerce continues to oppose a bill awaiting Gov. Kristi Noem’s signature that would ban transgender girls from playing sports.
David Owen called House Bill 1217 “the worst bill that passed this session.” He said the bill “professes to protect women’s sports, but is really just a flat ban against transgender participation,” ignoring the lived experience of transgender students.
Supporters of the bill say it’s necessary to prevent people assigned male at birth from winning women’s sporting events. Owen called the notion of someone intentionally manipulating their gender identity for athletic reasons “a fictional myth.”
The bill also carries economic concerns. Other business leaders draw a comparison to North Carolina’s “bathroom bill” that drew condemnation in 2016.
“We know from other states that the threat is very real, and we’re hoping the bill will be vetoed,” Debra Owen, public policy director with the Greater Sioux Falls Chamber of Commerce, told KELO-AM’s It’s Your Business with Bill Zortman on Friday.
Noem is undecided on whether to veto the bill. On March 8, she tweeted that she was excited to sign it, but later walked that statement back.
The legislators aren't her base, and she didn't do much to elect any of them in my view. She has appointed some who I suppose would qualify as her base but not that many, less than ten. A number of them identify as Janklow or Jackley or Rounds Republicans. They're not lockstep supporters, either prior to this or now. They're all individuals with their own, albeit smaller, constituencies. They've got districts and some of them care a whole hell of a lot about basketball and about how Sioux Falls and Lincoln County appear. And all of that matters.
Finally, I'll say this. I have two daughters. No sons. My girls played individual sports and got their athletic ability from me. Meaning not much. If they'd have had to play tennis and golf against transgendered boys, they'd have had a much tougher time beating people who can hit balls harder and farther than they can. I probably would have been the easiest vote in the legislature on that bill. My girls had a tough enough time in their sports without playing girls who can hit 100 yards farther or 20 mph faster. I believe in competition, fair competition.
"Miss Jean Louise, stand up. Your father's passin.'"
Big picture, 20,000 feet overview, a penis competing in female sports because the penis does not identify as a penis makes zero common sense. We have lost all direction. I thought Noem was above the politics of the matter.
I see that ctsmith is still pushing his liberal cancel culture agenda against Kristi Noem.Being uninformed concerning the truth seems to be a hallmark of his.
He's asking members to believe that one of the few Governors,who has been successful in defeating Demonrats,has suddenly given up her winning ways.
As far as I know she was the only governor who never closed a business or church and never mandated wearing masks.She was constantly bullied by the fake news but she never wavered.Yet we're expected to believe ctsmith the "queen of cancel culture",here at the Fire.Ctsmith's knee jerk reaction,promoted by some dipshit pundits,clearly illustrates his lunacy.
Just one item alone,which the legislators overlooked,would make their bill untenable.This has to do with the transgender's birth certificate.Their bill would certify if the birth certificate indicates the person is a female then the tranny can participate in women's sports.They neglected to recognize that transgenders can have their birth certificate changed to reflect their current mental state of gender dysphoria.
Don't tell ctsmiththis this easily understood fact undermines his diatribe against Noem because he's dead set on being the "queen of cancel culture" here at the Fire.LOL
The talker from FOX attacked Noem,as he apparently believed the same drivel that ctsmith has swallowed.Governor Noem put the formerly bow tie clad Carlson in his place.
Governor Noem's email attempted to clarify her position. "Governor Noem has long stood for fairness in women's sports. The reason why should be obvious: guys and girls are fundamentally different. Only girls should play girls' sports.H.B. 1217 is a trial lawyer's dream, offering all sorts of avenues for litigation that have nothing whatsoever to do with the issue at hand. Furthermore, the bill picked a fight with the NCAA — a fight that renowned conservative legal experts advise Governor Noem that she will lose, especially considering South Dakota's unfriendly federal bench."
Her record in defending girls sports is quite clear when she beat the Dept of Agriculture who attempted to combine girls and boys rodeo events.Sshhh,don't tell ctsmith!
Her idea to form a coalition of states to fend of the NCAA is sound.If enough states join this coalition,then the NCAA will think twice about bullying all of those states.
It appears the single most prolific critic of Governor Noem is a guy named Scwheppe.He works for the American Principles Project and has written for The Federalist,which have done some good work for conservative principles but Schweppe is human and therefore fallible.I don't believe he took the time to understand Governor Noem's position but reacted like a scorned boyfriend.His arrogance and know-it-all attitude doesn't play well since he's too young to understand many issues facing Americans.
"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing." **Edmund Burke**
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." **Benjamin Franklin**
I see that ctsmith is still pushing his liberal cancel culture agenda against Kristi Noem.Being uninformed concerning the truth seems to be a hallmark of his.
Cancel culture? You're an idiot. How about experience? Seen the same thing happen with Jeff Sessions. Others started seeing holes in the armor and us Bamers were blind as bat. No, not Jeff Sessions, he's an old wily southern gentleman that will stand firm!
And yes her lips and face that don't move are starting to annoy me. Got to stay pretty!
And yes I think 26 traffic violations at the age of 38 speaks of larger issues. At two she would not be allowed to drive a company vehicle for almost any company in America.
Yet we're expected to believe ctsmith the "queen of cancel culture",here at the Fire.Ctsmith's knee jerk reaction,promoted by some dipshit pundits,clearly illustrates his lunacy.
Check the time of OP. Before Tucker Carlson interview.
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