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1 – Reuters is a commie owned run news, so we all know commie news spins their articles towards the angle they want sheep like you to believe.

2 – The article points out the statement referenced was from a FB posting, which you then attempt to gaslight me again, like all commies do, and lie that I obtain my research from FB, which again, makes you lose the debate for using gaslighting. It is more than obvious I post solid scientific evidence, being nobody can successfully refute it, except for clowns like you attempting to succeed with your lying and gaslighting.

3 – The reuters author is interpreting another authors writing, which was itself a third person accounting, which makes the reuters author a fourth person accounting.

So, we’re supposed to believe a fourth person accounting from a commie run news organization attempting a fact check. Is this where I get to start laughing? And yet you want your postings here to be considered credentialed based on that? You are not just a clown, you are a complete idiot.

4 – The written article itself proves the tests are not valid with the below comment:

EXHIBIT: A -


Why is the above quote invalid, thereby proving PCR a non-reliable test? It is the fact Elon Musk had 4 tests performed last year, back-to-back and spaced evenly apart time-wise, and resulted in 2 positive tests and 2 negative tests, which proved they are a joke, just as you are a joke.

Further evidence to prove you are a clown, coming from your linked commie reuters article, I give you:

EXHIBIT: B -


The above clearly identifies the test is unreliable based on the fact they admit a culture is needed to determine a correct result.

Now, it is not too often amateurs, such as yourself, serve up a home run pitch, but I want to thank you for providing that waist-high inside fast ball I just sent over the left field fence.

Court is adjourned.

+1 Thanks Doc, for the laughs, and failing to prove my points false I asked you to.

CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS CRICKETS

Don't be mad because your friends are woefully incapable of winning a debate with facts.

It is amusing that ES quotes all these older studies on different diseases and virus strains and then claims a straw-dog argument. Very foolish.

Using RT-PCR for diagnosis serves two purposes:
1. It makes viral research in population studies practical, as it would be impossible to conduct large scale studies doing a viral culture for every patient. The fact that there's a "better" test does not invalidate PCR. You offer hearsay annecdotes of the test failing in elon musk, but no studies showing widespread issues.

2. Culture is too slow to use for diagnosis. Patients would either recover, of not recover, by the time it was confirmed. They'd be spreading the virus the whole time too. If your only validated diagnostic tool is too slow for clinical use, it isn't much use, is it?

And the old classic "every source who disagrees with me is communist!" No, they're not. There is no arguing with someone who can arbitrarily decide that any evidence is fraudulent.

You have insulted people who take the vaccine as living in fear, but I guarantee that your fear of the great unseen Marxist boogey-man is greater than their fear of the virus.

So keep posting your conspiracy sites, and cherry-picked, out of context sentences, from marginally relevant studies. You've found your echo chamber.

Poor Elklayer. If you don’t a agree with his tangents you’re a democrat, communist, etc. Laughing at him again.

Checkmate dumbass...

It's amusing you use false negatives to accuse someone of something they haven't done, and you refuse to post links to the specific post to show the evidence you are accusing them of.

You are the spitting image of a useful idiot.

Show these links where I have posted about different diseases commie.

You're the useful idiot who posted articles discussing cancer, when the topic is corona virus. It's fun watching your mentally deranged mind attempt to function.

I suggest you read the title of YOUR own thread. It is about a biological process that can be used in many different ways. Your'e claiming it is a design failure. Foolish again.

what i ain't figured out, but afterall i'm a lowly tax-payiing commoner, is how long is the virus vaccine effective? if, and i say if, one is resistant to re-infection from the actual covid (well, one of them) for only 90 days how long is the vaccine effective? i took my two modernas and am wondering if i might need a third for more effectiveness. as an aside my stiff ankle has loosened up quite a bit after the two modernas. of course the physical therapy might have helped too.

Here's a pro-tip: active acquired immunity beats passive immunity received by vaccine.

If getting covid doesn't stop you from getting it again, thinking a vaccine will is rather naive.

And in this corner we have ElkSlayer91 who is challenging Happy Camper for the 2021 Campfire KOTY Award.
They are neck in neck, who will be the winner?
Place your bets!

The title of the thread is SPECIFIC to the Corona virus, thus the reason for the "-2" and the (CV-19).

You are a complete fool, an illiterate fool at that, to attempt to state the title covers "many different ways".

You have obfuscated, lied, and used false negatives, just like all mentally deranged communists do when they debate, and have their azzes handed to them.

Go run along commie. You lost the debate many posts back with your lying.

It's your opinion, but I didn't have to call people names to make a point. You lost the debate long ago. 389 million an counting.......

I actually can feel my I.Q. dropping as I read through this "debate". 2 Moderna shots here and glad to have them.

Titan against Titan in the battle of site retards...

One will probably be taken out by the COVID.

You got your azz handed to you from attempting to use a communist media source as evidence to support your position. To make it even worse, the article was written from a fourth person position. How many persons is that removed from what is admissible as evidence in court? Try THREE, which makes you a damned fool.

Right there, you lose the whole debate, azz clown. I buried you with facts, and you still come back with obfuscation and lies in your weak attempt to prove you are right. [rolling laughter]

Moreover, you demonstrate above you have no clue to what you are talking about concerning the time frame on receiving test results between culture and PCR, when you talk about needing results back quick, “Culture is too slow to use for diagnosis. Patients would either recover, of not recover, by the time it was confirmed. They'd be spreading the virus the whole time too. If your only validated diagnostic tool is too slow for clinical use, it isn't much use, is it?” I’ll address this at the end of my reply.


More false negative accusations here, with zero proof. Standard MO for you commies, you make accusations with zero link or quote of original statement, because it’d show you are a liar.


I never insulted anyone nor am I in fear of anything. I pointed out the govt. was instilling fear with their lies, which everyone with a functioning brain clearly realizes. Again, you are a mentally deranged lying commie. It really is that simple.


Continuous ramblings of false negatives. Yes sir, you are truly the epitome of a useful idiot.

Back to the PCR tests and Elon Musk. Here is where you get body slammed, little troll.

Like any good attorney would do, I set your azz up, and you swallowed.

You have zero clue of what you speak. Elon Musk didn’t take the PCR tests. He took four “Rapid Tests”, and “Rapid Tests” are what you use to obtain fast test results, NOT PCR tests. You commented above, in your beginning paragraph, (1), addressing testing large quantities of people using a PCR test rather than a culture, when in a large group you would actually use “Rapid Testing” versus PCR to get results quickly. That fact proves it is you who is the trolling Googler, being these facts prove you are woefully uneducated. You then gaslight me again with your accusation of, “You offer hearsay annecdotes of the test failing in elon musk, but no studies showing widespread issues”, when you don’t even mention Rapid Testing anywhere in your reply, which shows you are a trolling tool.

You use hearsay wrong there too, because Elon did take tests, so that is not hearsay, that is what is known as factual evidence. People like you, who attempt to look intelligent, by throwing fancy words around, eventually show them selves to be fools, as you did.

Lastly, there are studies out there proving PCR tests have multiple flaws which in turn create false positives in the test results. Maybe YOU should conduct some DD, so you won’t continually represent yourself for the complete fool you are, over and over again.

The only entities using PCR for research are people needing the ability to falsify the results. Any legitimate scientist/s do not. You not knowing this fact is further proof as to what you are.

Run along troll.

And like the good little communist that you are, you ignore the facts when they are placed at your feet, proving you to be a liar. Nothing new there.