Actually, evidence can support contradictory and opposing conclusions.
I agree absolutely. That is why I subscribe to all the tenets of orthodox (small o) Christianity AND agree with the enlightened pluralism enshrined in the Constitution. For me they go together like peanut butter and jelly.
I’ve met far smarter men who rejected my faith; I have met far more ethical, moral men who eschewed Christianity’s claims. There can be no doubt there are a great many who deny my Lord and make wonderful neighbors.
There's a big difference between Christians, and Fundamentalist Christians, and atheist and Marxist.
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You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
Supposed 'proof of creation' presented by believers has actually totally backfired and done nothing more than prove pastors to be complete idiots.
Nothing funnier when a Christian imbecile preaching to the flock shoots himself in the foot with a simple banana....LoL.
Do you have any proof of the pastor’s foolishness? Any evidence that proves he <figuratively> shot himself in the foot with a banana or any evidence at all to support your assertion that “prove pastors to be complete idiots”?
...or is that simply your opinion that you’re presenting as fact?
�Politicians are the lowest form of life on earth. Liberal Democrats are the lowest form of politician.� �General George S. Patton, Jr.
Evidently Ace has never heard of pastor Ray Comfort and his wacko 'banana tale'..LoL. But hey it's a broad church where Jesus accepts all types - even the ones Ace would reject.
Btw: ..got a question for you ... When you attended those church groups where you found "No presence of God"...
What happened to that 'Omnipresence' .. ???
Perhaps God was there and you just ain't capable of genuinely detecting such presence.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
Supposed 'proof of creation' presented by believers has actually totally backfired and done nothing more than prove pastors to be complete idiots.
Nothing funnier when a Christian imbecile preaching to the flock shoots himself in the foot with a simple banana....LoL.
Do you have any proof of the pastor’s foolishness? Any evidence that proves he <figuratively> shot himself in the foot with a banana or any evidence at all to support your assertion that “prove pastors to be complete idiots”? ...or is that simply your opinion that you’re presenting as fact?
Incisive questions, and a truthful answer would admit the situation is the latter. However, do not hold your breath while waiting for that - that fellow reps the idea of housecleaning and the dumpster.
.When you attended those church groups where you found "No presence of God"... What happened to that 'Omnipresence' .. ???
Try really hard now to concentrate - squish over into the corner by the coffee grounds - and think. You can do it - realize that all men fall short, are weak in some ways - and that the Omnipresence of God is not always felt or realized by mortal little humans. The fact that you cannot sense or find something does not mean it is not present - like evidence, etc. Please keep the lid down.
CCCC, ..I believe Ace is a grown man that doesn't need you to answer for him each time.
You need to get over your hurt and resentment if you want to be a better Christian...but I do understand the inherent sickness and weakness of Christians might prevent such.
Originally Posted by CCCC
- realize that all men fall short, are weak in some ways - and that the Omnipresence of God is not always felt or realized by mortal little humans..
Perhaps Ace was correct and God was not present.
It's not like you can prove Omnipresence. just reading about it somewhere doesn't automatically make it true.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
I am interested in what you believe. We know what you disbelieve.
Since you believe in supernatural acts .. Do you even mildly entertain the possibility that pagan gods the Romans worshipped, divinely assisted them in their empire building.? Why would some deity help Israel and not Rome?
In answer to your questions, I don't know what all the Deity allows vs. assists. I have stated that I believe the Jewish people maintaining their identity in their dispersal all over the world for almost 2000 years and the re-establishment of the modern super power Israel to not be explainable except by supernatural intervention. Especially their victory in the 1948 war. Basically a few thousand stood off the Arab Moslem hordes. Now as to the literal bible the very first chapter is not to be taken literally. A 7 day creation that took place 5000 years ago is not close to accurate. But my answer to that would be to ask. What is a day to a creator at the center of our vast universe. So yes, I believe there is a "Deity". My question to you remains what do you believe? As I said, we know what you disbelieve. God bless.
Patriotism (and religion) is the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Supposed 'proof of creation' presented by believers has actually totally backfired and done nothing more than prove pastors to be complete idiots.
Nothing funnier when a Christian imbecile preaching to the flock shoots himself in the foot with a simple banana....LoL.
Do you have any proof of the pastor’s foolishness? Any evidence that proves he <figuratively> shot himself in the foot with a banana or any evidence at all to support your assertion that “prove pastors to be complete idiots”?
...or is that simply your opinion that you’re presenting as fact?
Ray Comfort, aka Banana boy, debunked:
You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.
You cannot over estimate the unimportance of nearly everything. John Maxwell
The actions of Hitler outraged the world and helped to realize the dream.
God was nowhere to be seen.
Omnipresence suggests God was in the death camps and gas chambers with his chosen people. Even in the Fuhrer's Wolf's Lair when the bomb went off and Berlin bunker when Hitler finally ended it all.
And all those yrs Hitler was plotting/scheming his rise to power from humble beginnings , God was right there with him all along the way.
OTOH, it could be a totally remote god that has no earthly presence and makes no interventions even from a distance.
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
God employed fallen Lucifer to have dominion over the earth...could have destroyed all that wickedness and evil right there and then, but didn't want to put such an asset to waste.
Why appoint an angel in heaven and make him your most cherished , when you already know he is going to rebel and cause havoc ?
-Bulletproof and Waterproof don't mean Idiotproof.
Satan is an agent of God, according to Judaism. Both are described canoodling together in the book of Job, having a friendly bet on faithfulness of Job, Satan following instructions from God, etc.
