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The long range shooter misses out on something I enjoy. I have turkey hunted in Missouri since 1982 and that's close up business. You can actually feel it in your chest when a tom gobbles. I have also been that close to elk when they bugle and it's the same. Or being a part of what's going on when deer are going about their normal routine. Many other things I'd miss out on unless I've invested my time and efforts into being close. Don't get me wrong, I take great pride in my shooting but it's not the main focus.
I had an electrician working in my shop for me a couple of years ago that told me he shot 2 bucks, we only get to shoot one in Missouri, in the head at 800 yards. He was using a 6.5 creemoor. He explained to me no other caliber could do that. I didn't question him at all. It was his story. I have often wondered how many people are like him that think he's a good hunter.
One of the western states made it illegal to shoot elk, maybe other game, with the big 50 cal. BMG. I read the reason being was too many were being crippled and lost. Paul Harvey used to say that self government won't work without self discipline.
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The long range shooter misses out on something I enjoy. And vice versa.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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Some of you younger members might not see the irony in this, not knowing who Selby is.
His experience is worth listening to, though he is sure of himself on some matters that he should probably get back to, he's earned his opinions long before the internet came about.
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I made 3:58 sec, the labored breathing, sloth speed thought/speech process tells me i'd fu-king die before he got my rifle built, people put too much thought in the notion ANYONE gives a flying fu-k what they think/know/think they know/believe in, he needs to get on his feet, stfu with the narcissism thoughts overload and get back to work on rifle building. Lol, You should've went to 4:00! Look up "blow Hard" in the dictionary and this guys picture is right there.
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Different strokes for different folks. There’s hunting and there’s shooting, combined to make harvesting.
Some guys consider Road hunting a technique. Others consider sitting in a heated box watching college football sipping hootch a technique.
Heh! Good ones.
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Some of you younger members might not see the irony in this, not knowing who Selby is.
His experience is worth listening to, though he is sure of himself on some matters that he should probably get back to, he's earned his opinions long before the internet came about. And that is where he stopped.
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when i was learning eastern woods hunting from by dad and uncles, i asked about distance shooting and where to hold. the answer i got is that if you are wondering where to hold, you need to get closer.
this wasn't much of a problem, as the only long shots at deer were over pastures. if a deer was 400 yards away, how would you know. most of my hunting is at less than 100 yards.
western hunting has always fascinated us eastern hunters and the impression i have is that only the most expert, wily hunters can be successful.
If you're not having fun; you're not doing it right!
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Kids these days and their dadgum range finders!
Total douche.
Screw you! I'm voting for Trump again!
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I made 3:58 sec, the labored breathing, sloth speed thought/speech process tells me i'd fu-king die before he got my rifle built, people put too much thought in the notion ANYONE gives a flying fu-k what they think/know/think they know/believe in, he needs to get on his feet, stfu with the narcissism thoughts overload and get back to work on rifle building. Better then me, I made it to 1:25, I much prefer getting to the point or if not, to be entertaining in delivery. He isn't.
Remember why, specifically, the Bill of Rights was written...remember its purpose. It was written to limit the power of government over the individual
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Long range hunting starter kit:
1. Flat-bill hat. 2. $4000 package gun with carbon barrel. 3. First focal plane scope. 4. Arca rails on everything. 5. Double arm sleeves tattoos. 6. Big beard. 7. Sitka -or- Kuiu gear outfits. 8. Jacked up monster truck.
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Far too many different scenarios for 600yds (or whatever number/range you wish to insert) to be always right or always wrong.
I don't see "long-range" as a tactic, for me, it's a tool in the tool-box. I don't set out on any given day saying "I'm not shooting a critter unless its XX, XXX, or XXXX yds away." Of course, I'm not selling rifles, optics, ammo, or the like. Nor am I filming a show. I'm just hunting because I enjoy it.
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
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western hunting has always fascinated us eastern hunters and the impression i have is that only the most expert, wily hunters can be successful. This is utter horse schitt perpetrated by gun writer hacks and keyboard commandos. The vast majority of elk killed in Wyoming are killed at a range of less than 100 yards, people even kill them with archery or traditional muzzleloaders, as well as deer and pronghorns. A knowledge of the habits and characteristics of the game animals is very helpful as is knowledge of hunting techniques, but not entirely necessary, total neophytes harvest their animals frequently. IMHO, 99% of hunters do not have the skills necessary to make a shot into the kill zone of an elk or deer at 600 yards and many cant do it at 100. If you want an eye opener, go help out at your local range during "Public Sight-in Days", you will see some pitiful scenes. Note the flintlock rifle:
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Long range hunting starter kit:
1. Flat-bill hat. 2. $4000 package gun with carbon barrel. 3. First focal plane scope. 4. Arca rails on everything. 5. Double arm sleeves tattoos. 6. Big beard. 7. Sitka -or- Kuiu gear outfits. 8. Jacked up monster truck.
LOL! You forgot the t-shirt that's 2 sizes too small.
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I do love the men's small tshirt 🤣
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"Don't use a bullet that's not designed for hunting."
A few of the most successful hunters I know use bullets that "weren't designed for hunting."
And I can guarantee this blowhard has never even tried it.
A wise man is frequently humbled.
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I made 3:58 sec, the labored breathing, sloth speed thought/speech process tells me i'd fu-king die before he got my rifle built, people put too much thought in the notion ANYONE gives a flying fu-k what they think/know/think they know/believe in, he needs to get on his feet, stfu with the narcissism thoughts overload and get back to work on rifle building. I've watched a handful of his videos in recent years. Some good stuff - but more "holy szchit man, consider joining us in the 21st century". I assume a grandson or local millennial convinced him that he could monetize these videos while sharing his wealth of knowledge with the world. The double-edge sword is potentially coming across as entrenched in old-thinking and arrogantly-domineering. He's accomplished both swimmingly. ............i've built three rifles since 1969, and a half of one before that...
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There are slob hunters of every persuasion.
Bow to extreme long range.
If you keep your shots within your skillset, you KNOW you're not a slob, and your feelings won't be hurt by what others write/think/say.
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I made 3:58 sec, the labored breathing, sloth speed thought/speech process tells me i'd fu-king die before he got my rifle built, people put too much thought in the notion ANYONE gives a flying fu-k what they think/know/think they know/believe in, he needs to get on his feet, stfu with the narcissism thoughts overload and get back to work on rifle building. Lol, You should've went to 4:00! Look up "blow Hard" in the dictionary and this guys picture is right there. damn ; ] i thought i'd see 'dink mountainman'
Trump Won!
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I made 3:58 sec, the labored breathing, sloth speed thought/speech process tells me i'd fu-king die before he got my rifle built, people put too much thought in the notion ANYONE gives a flying fu-k what they think/know/think they know/believe in, he needs to get on his feet, stfu with the narcissism thoughts overload and get back to work on rifle building. Better then me, I made it to 1:25, I much prefer getting to the point or if not, to be entertaining in delivery. He isn't. No kidding JDinCO, 'let us not beat around the bush' is one of the commandments i think.
Trump Won!
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