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For all those suggesting 5-shot J Frames, I appreciate your input, but is that really the gun you want for a gunfight? It's a serious question, not a criticism. Size and weight aren't going to be the deal breaker here for me (within reason--I'm probably not going to opt for an N Frame with a 8 3/8" barrel).

If somebody was waiting for me in the parking lot and the fight was on, I'm thinking I'd want a real rear sight--not just a notch, and bit more grip than the typical 2 finger. How much sight radius would you want? I'm talking in terms of fighting back against a determined attacker.


Well:

1.) Since size isn't a concern for you (up to a point)

2.) Since you seem to be leaning towards this scenario being somewhat likely for you (as opposed to a lot of us who don't, and thus we lean towards a lightweight 5 shot revolver, just in case)

3.) And since I personally like the feel of a S&W action...

I believe if I were in your shoes, I'd give some strong consideration to the 7 shot S&W 686 for the extra round- like the poster a few slots above me suggested.

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All S&W K frames: 2.5" Model 19, 4" Model 17-6, 4.25" Model 686, 4.25" Model 69.

Probably the 19 gets the nod, if I could carry.

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That brings up, "How much sight radius would you want? I'm talking in terms of fighting back against a determined attacker."


I'm still sorting that one out.

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Check out the Governor. It is slightly larger than your gun but surprisingly light and you're gonna gain the ability to go with a bunch of different rounds. The right holster, and it is almost as concealable especially during times of heavier attire.

There's a preacher in WV that is blessed to live in a community where he can even carry his Governor into the bank without raising an eyebrow.

THIS Gov... https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/governor

NOT this gov....https://www.howtallis.org/jim-justice-height-weight-shoe-size/

Those few extra ounces between those two models makes a difference.

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Is there any other choice than a Smith 4" 29-2 (or older)? Just ask Elmer! wink


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S&W model 60, 3” 357 with moderate loads or model 637, 38 with Speer short barrel 135 Gold Dots. Both with laser grips.


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I carried a 3" SP101 in a Sparks VMII for a while just before the mini-9 revolution in the early 2010s. It was a nice package and I used Buffalo Bore .38 Special +P 158 grain LSWCHP.

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I also had a S&W 325 Night Guard that was nice, in the same model holster, that went down the road.

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One more vote for the S&W 66. I have a twin to the revolver below, along with several speed loaders.


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Another vote for a K frame. This is a 4" 66 in a Milt Sparks crossdraw.

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Originally Posted by tankerjockey
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Originally Posted by Cariboujack

That brings up, "How much sight radius would you want? I'm talking in terms of fighting back against a determined attacker."


I'm still sorting that one out.

I like the larger grip of the 66. Right now I'm leaning toward buying a 3" or 4" 66. If not, then just schlepping the 2.5" 66.
You really think you'd gain much if you went from a 2 1/2" to a 3" or even a 4"? I can see wanting the 4" with a square butt. At this point in time though, you could probably just order some grips that would simulate the square buttedness of the older 4" guns, if that is your desire. Personally, I can see buying one to gain 1/2" or 1 1/2" in sight radius and velocity. If it's just getting another gun, then go for it, as it sounds like money is no object. Personally, I ALWAYS consider the money and would continue to do so even if I hit the Powerball.

Check out the Governor. It is slightly larger than your gun but surprisingly light and you're gonna gain the ability to go with a bunch of different rounds. The right holster, and it is almost as concealable especially during times of heavier attire.


It is not a big gain in velocity or in sight radius going from a 2” or 2.5 in barrel to a 3” .. The bigger difference is with a 3” you also gain a full length ejector rod to aid in fully ejecting spent cases and in turn, a much cleaner and faster reload.
There are a lot of small nuances in using and getting the most return from carrying a revolver. There are some notable advantages even, but you have to work at it and commit to it.
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Exactly, (I forget that a guy has to fully explain himself here.) I was thinking 3" for the full length ejector, but a 4" because it's more in focus for my eyes. My near vision is starting to go, and every bit helps. Who knows, in a year or two, maybe I won't be able to see ANY iron sights, but today, a smidge more distance does make a difference.


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I put a Meprolight front sight on my SP 101 2.25" .357. I have others I carry but that will be the absolute last one I part with. Smiths are cool but Rugers feel like a bank vault.

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686, seven shot.


That's a fine idea!


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Either a Security six in 4 inch, or a Smith 13, 3 inch with round butt. Have had both, shouldn't have gotten rid of either one, but either would get the job done for me.

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Originally Posted by acy
Either a Security six in 4 inch, or a Smith 13, 3 inch with round butt. Have had both, shouldn't have gotten rid of either one, but either would get the job done for me.


Those old Ruger Security Six And Speed Six Revolvers are great old guns and highly underrated. Not quite as slick an action as the S&W Revolvers, but hell for stout and as reliable as any Revolver ever made.

I’d love to find a reasonably priced 3” barreled Security Six or Speed Six in Stainless or Blue!

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Anything in between the J-frame Smiths and Ruger LCR to 2-1/2” through 4” Smith K-frames and Security Six and SP-101.


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686, seven shot.


That's a fine idea!


Those are nice. S&W 686+ Deluxe 3" Mine has had the lock removed and hole plugged. Interestingly I haven't even shot mine.


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4 inch Colt Police Positive 38 in a Heiser 416 holster with 146 gr lead RN. 2 inch group at 10 yards between the eyes. Most comfortable revolver I've ever shot.

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Originally Posted by irfubar
I would pick this one,38 spcl. 6 shot, 17oz. night sights


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That's the Taurus 856 Ultra-Lite, isn't it? A good suggestion.

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S&W Mod 25,,4",, when I'm packing a pistol.


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