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im not spinning..... im informing... if anyone comes for me or mine get right with jesus. if 2 people try threatn my family or myself and i move to DEFEND myself or especially my family and a cop shows up to arrest me he is instantly complicit and will be treated to the third round of get the [bleep] off me.
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I almost feel bad, but I don't. There's something gratifying about knowing that an internet troll will lose sleep thinking about his failure. Don't feel bad. Just STFU, Mr Only Cops Should Have Guns.
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From the Oregon State Police:
T๐ก๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ซ๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ. The person in the photo was the victim of extensive damage to his vehicle. When he stopped to assess the damage, he was assaulted with pepper spray. After being assaulted with pepper spray, the person pulled a handgun from his waistband to defend himself. He did not point the weapon at anyone and dropped it when ordered to do so by Law Enforcement. This person has a valid concealed handgun license. This person was detained, interviewed and then released. Reports will be forwarded to the Marion County District Attorneyโs Office for review.
OK, but the question still remains: Why did the police stand idly by & watch & allow Antifa to assault vehicles & the people in them via all the schitt being thrown? Why? MM I dunno, but I'll take guess. Because they're punkazz pussy bitches who have sucked lefty ass for the last year-and-a-half while the antifa types do whatever they want? Lol
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So..nobody man enough to answer my question?
Please don't humiliate yourself with another deflection. Recognize the threat, know your true enemy and take action. Youโre telling me that Antifa and an old man have a confrontation, old Man pulls a gun and youโre worried about the old man? Seriously? You might be the stupidest cop on the planet, and thatโs saying something. Maybe. But, that's still dodging the question. Your'e the cop. You drive up on a situation where 500 [bleep] are legally protesting and one good guy is waving a gun a around. He is the only one that you have probable cause to believe that has committed a crime (even if it is a bullshit city ordinance). Answer the question. You do know that the scenario you have described is not even remotely close to what happened here, right. Legally protesting, NO Waving a gun around, NO Only one you have PC to believe has committed a crime, HELL NO. You want your question answered, at the very least be truthful.
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From the Oregon State Police:
T๐ก๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ซ๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ. The person in the photo was the victim of extensive damage to his vehicle. When he stopped to assess the damage, he was assaulted with pepper spray. After being assaulted with pepper spray, the person pulled a handgun from his waistband to defend himself. He did not point the weapon at anyone and dropped it when ordered to do so by Law Enforcement. This person has a valid concealed handgun license. This person was detained, interviewed and then released. Reports will be forwarded to the Marion County District Attorneyโs Office for review.
OK, but the question still remains: Why did the police stand idly by & watch & allow Antifa to assault vehicles & the people in them via all the schitt being thrown? Why? MM I dunno, but I'll take guess. Because they're punkazz pussy bitches who have sucked lefty ass for the last year-and-a-half while the antifa types do whatever they want? Lol Yes, LD does have a way of presenting Truth and Facts in a hard hitting humorous manner. His post was spot on as usual.
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4 What? Police arrest 4 during Oregon State Capitol anti-fascist protest, clash with right-wing supporters The Old Patriot is (1), who are the other (3)? โRight wing supportersโ like the old Patriot, or left wing Antifas?
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From the Oregon State Police:
T๐ก๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ ๐จ๐ง ๐๐ญ๐๐ญ๐ ๐๐จ๐ฅ๐ข๐๐ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐๐ฅ๐ฌ๐จ ๐ฅ๐ข๐ค๐ ๐ญ๐จ ๐๐ฅ๐๐ซ๐ข๐๐ฒ ๐ฆ๐ข๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐๐จ๐ซ๐ฆ๐๐ญ๐ข๐จ๐ง ๐ซ๐๐ ๐๐ซ๐๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐ฎ๐ฆ๐ฌ๐ญ๐๐ง๐๐๐ฌ ๐๐ซ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐ ๐ญ๐ก๐ ๐ฆ๐๐ง ๐ฐ๐ก๐จ ๐ฐ๐๐ฌ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ข๐ง๐๐ ๐๐๐ญ๐๐ซ ๐๐ข๐ฌ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐๐ฒ๐ข๐ง๐ ๐ ๐๐ข๐ซ๐๐๐ซ๐ฆ. Reports will be forwarded to the Marion County District Attorneyโs Office for review.
Facts are not needed on the 'fire....don't you know.... The fact that I take note of here is the one in bold. This guy will have the potential of a charge hanging over his head until the statute of limitations runs out or the prosecutor decides its time to find an old white guy who needs to be made an example of. The police are in a bad situation here and I donโt envy them at all but the fact remains. They made an oath to the Constitution and by following orders to ignore antifaโs antics and arrest those who stand against them, even if โfor their own goodโ as has been suggested here and may be true to an extent, theyโre violating equal protection to say nothing of basic common sense and rule of law. The real criminals are ANTIFA and theyโre the ones who need arresting and prosecution. Officers in cities like Salem, Portland, and Minneapolis really ought to quit and find cities to work in where theyโre assured that the ruling authorities take paths to the Constitution seriously. Otherwise theyโre just being โcopsโ in the original sense.
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ltppowell Maybe. But, that's still dodging the question. Your'e the cop. You drive up on a situation where 500 [bleep] are legally protesting and one good guy is waving a gun a around. He is the only one that you have probable cause to believe that has committed a crime (even if it is a bullshit city ordinance). Answer the question. Pat, I think that right there is what is causing so much angst with this thread. Unless I am missing something, I just can't picture this as a legal protest. To me, it is an organized riot, and done so for political purposes. The violence and assaults, the blocking of traffic and the intimidating of Citizens would seem to separate the 'legal' part of the event from the 'protesting' part.
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4 What? Police arrest 4 during Oregon State Capitol anti-fascist protest, clash with right-wing supporters The Old Patriot is (1), who are the other (3)? โRight wing supportersโ like the old Patriot, or left wing Antifas? I don't know. I didnโt ask the question, because I don't really care. But your reading comprehension is dog s hit, because "the old patriot" (also known as a dumbas) WAS NOT ARRESTED OR CHARGED WITH A CRIME. So instead of crying about everything like babies here on the 'fire, why don't you attempt to use your brain's to think some s hit through...... So a news article stated "approximately 200 antifa protestors clashed with right-wing supporters and police. 200? So that's more than the entire Salem Oregon police department (189 sworn). So how many cops do you think were out there? All 189 sworn? Lol. Let's see....25 or more are brass, so they weren't there. I'm guessing at least 30 are detectives, so they weren't there, I'm sure another 20 are some sort of ridiculous specialty unit (dope, traffic, parking, desk riding/hiding). Now we're down to about 114 actual patrol officers, half of which were probably on days off for the weekend and half of that doesn't work dayshift. Sure a tactical team was there, but that's maybe 30 guys. So max MAYBE 100 cops to 250?300? Protestors combined? Ya I can't imagine why they didn't just walk out and start cuffing people. They tried to shut down the protest, that's about all they probably had the man power to do, unless some dumb s hit starts waving a gun around.... Not to even mention the probable issues they have even arresting people in that commie hell hole due to covid restrictions. OR the fact that all those protestors made a cognitive decision to place themselves at the time and place of the protest. They wanted to larp, and larp they did......... If you go purposefully to engage with antifa, you should already be at peace with the fact that your property is going to be F'd with, you're going to be F'd with, and you might catch a charge......but im guessing most mouth breathers want the drama.
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It seems to me it would have been obvious that the guy's truck had been vandalized and that he had been pepper sprayed. It would have been obvious that he had been attacked. I can't see myself arresting him, unless I had information to the contrary.
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It seems to me it would have been obvious that the guy's truck had been vandalized and that he had been pepper sprayed. It would have been obvious that he had been attacked. I can't see myself arresting him, unless I had information to the contrary. That's great George Floyd groupie, because he wasn't arrested.
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4 What? Police arrest 4 during Oregon State Capitol anti-fascist protest, clash with right-wing supporters The Old Patriot is (1), who are the other (3)? โRight wing supportersโ like the old Patriot, or left wing Antifas? I don't know. I didnโt ask the question, because I don't really care. But your reading comprehension is dog s hit, because "the old patriot" (also known as a dumbas) WAS NOT ARRESTED OR CHARGED WITH A CRIME. So instead of crying about everything like babies here on the 'fire, why don't you attempt to use your brain's to think some s hit through...... So a news article stated "approximately 200 antifa protestors clashed with right-wing supporters and police. 200? So that's more than the entire Salem Oregon police department (189 sworn). So how many cops do you think were out there? All 189 sworn? Lol. Let's see....25 or more are brass, so they weren't there. I'm guessing at least 30 are detectives, so they weren't there, I'm sure another 20 are some sort of ridiculous specialty unit (dope, traffic, parking, desk riding/hiding). Now we're down to about 114 actual patrol officers, half of which were probably on days off for the weekend and half of that doesn't work dayshift. Sure a tactical team was there, but that's maybe 30 guys. So max MAYBE 100 cops to 250?300? Protestors combined? Ya I can't imagine why they didn't just walk out and start cuffing people. They tried to shut down the protest, that's about all they probably had the man power to do, unless some dumb s hit starts waving a gun around.... Not to even mention the probable issues they have even arresting people in that commie hell hole due to covid restrictions. OR the fact that all those protestors made a cognitive decision to place themselves at the time and place of the protest. They wanted to larp, and larp they did......... If you go purposefully to engage with antifa, you should already be at peace with the fact that your property is going to be F'd with, you're going to be F'd with, and you might catch a charge......but im guessing most mouth breathers want the drama. It's amazing to me that you don't see how pathetic those cawps' response AND your written response both are. It's obvious to most folks watching that video and a hundred others that cawps in the Northwest are mostly fugking useless and just tools of the left with a uniform.. and people are getting more pissed at this schit as it continues to be allowed by said cawps. When the SHTF, a large part of the responsibility for that will be on the shoulders of ineffective, stand down LE departments. But, I'm sure most of those responsible won't lose a wink of sleep because they'll still be in line for their pinchin. I got a C-note in my pocket that says the antifags threw the paint on his truck to start the whole soiree. Cops, my ass.
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The Boomer wasn't afraid to take on the crowd of Millennial failures. The cops shouldnโt either.
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It seems to me it would have been obvious that the guy's truck had been vandalized and that he had been pepper sprayed. It would have been obvious that he had been attacked. I can't see myself arresting him, unless I had information to the contrary. That's great George Floyd groupie, because he wasn't arrested. Genuinely confused. You said that Loggerโs posting of the OSPโs press release was โfactโ and within that report it said the man was detained and that the Prosecutor had opened an investigation. Is that not tantamount to an arrest? Please keep in mind Iโm not LEO and donโt have experience with the criminal justice system like you do. Genuinely asking the question.
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ltppowell Maybe. But, that's still dodging the question. Your'e the cop. You drive up on a situation where 500 [bleep] are legally protesting and one good guy is waving a gun a around. He is the only one that you have probable cause to believe that has committed a crime (even if it is a bullshit city ordinance). Answer the question. Pat, I think that right there is what is causing so much angst with this thread. Unless I am missing something, I just can't picture this as a legal protest. To me, it is an organized riot, and done so for political purposes. The violence and assaults, the blocking of traffic and the intimidating of Citizens would seem to separate the 'legal' part of the event from the 'protesting' part. No doubt, not legal. All OTHER assaults and intimidation of citizens aside, any "legal protest" all stopped when the antifags threw the paint on the old guy's truck.
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Too bad old guy didn't drop some of them.
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Too bad old guy didn't drop some of them. Coupla hundred pipe-hitters would have done no harm, either.
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Too bad old guy didn't drop some of them. Looks to me like he is fortunate he didnโt. He is already under investigation and could face charges at any time. If he had done that heโd see that the rule of law means nothing, and that the media and their narrative will gladly plow over individuals who present opportunity for them to show what an evil society the right advocates. The media now serve as judge, jury, and executioner. Watch the Chauvin show trial to see it in action.
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They didn't just "stick" a branch through the windshield. That's attempted murder by mob attack. Yet if the operator would have gotten out with a gun to ward the attackers away, the cops would have treated him like Charles Manson, and ignored the murderous mob.
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