Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Building Materials and materials going up...

A 16ft 2x4 was 18 bucks ffs.

I guess my point is...it isn't tariffs, I can almost see the mill where they make this schitt.

Well before covid hit you could get rates on 30 fixed for 3.75% or a tad lower, that was dang good. I dont think the feds are gonna be in a hurry to get us back up to 5-6% again. Why pay 10-20% more in materials to build a house now to save 1% point. Wait it out.

Friend just bought 10 acres to build on, and contractors have already told him the house he wants would be on avg 80grand more than usual due to material prices now. He's gonna work on paying of his new lot the next couple years and hopefully things will be better for building by then.

I want to build a shop, just not going to right now.

How about bypassing most of the wood, altogether?

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30 or 40 years ago planting timber was thought, at least in some areas, to be a good investment if you had land that you weren't doing anything else with. I'm guessing a lot of Baby Boomers who had moved away from the small farms they or their parents grew up on and had inherited land they didn't have a purpose for decided timber would help supplement their retirement. It stinks that the market conditions have changed so dramatically that the small landowners can't sell their timber even with lumber and wood product prices sky high. The low timber prices predate the COVID pandemic, even with all the housing construction and hurricanes driving demand for wood products the last few years. Clearly that market is not an efficient one.

I see no shortage, just high prices.

Part of the problem is huge corporations like Home Depot and Lowe's pushed smaller lumber yards out of business, and the huge retailers only want to deal with huge suppliers so they minimize the number of suppliers. Forty years ago Bob's lumber yard would buy from Joe's lumber mill, but Bob was put out of business by Home Depot, and Joe wasn't a blip on Home Depot's radar, so he's out of business, too, along with all the local loggers. Therefore, local families don't have a market for their 100 acres of timber even though lumber prices are unbelievably high.

And if a contractor, being a good businessman, can save on labor costs (time) by buying everything at Home Depot and pass the costs of materials directly to his customer (plus his markup), what's his incentive to have to go to 3 or 4, or more, different businesses to buy various things for his job?

We need to get back to people expecting to do business with local business and give up a little in efficiencies. We're just making it easier for the Marxists/socialists to consolidate everything and starve out those who don't support their "workers utopia" when they get complete control

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Big box stores are the last place contractors go to get lumber. Even if it costs more at local store, the time savings and not having to deal with retards at the big box store is worth it. The only things I get at the big box stores anymore are pre-ordered online.

There Cutting alot of pine around here! See logging trucks full all the time.

Some yards kick back to contractors.

Glad you're supporting local businesses. Appears some of the large builders in our area work with Lowe's. Perhaps that is a matter of scale with a builder that may have dozens or even hundreds of houses under construction at once in various locations across a region. Also know that some large builders that build apartment complexes and condo developments use Home Depot as a one-stop supplier. Again, scale probably factors in just like it does for Home Depot and Lowe's suppliers.