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Thanks for that.

Looks like the persecution of George Zimmerman!

Prosecutors lying and telling half truths.

They said the knee on the neck wasn’t allowed by police department, but the use of force document detailed how to do it.

They didn’t mention the 3x fatal dose of fentanyl consumed by Floyd just prior to his arrest.

I wonder how a police force comes back from this. Or rather, how the District Attorney's Office does? There is a certain amount of trust needed between the cops and the prosecutors and how do you re-establish this after the Prosecutors have essentially, betrayed the police?

Do you really think he will be convicted?
I don't,
He was a big dumbass but now everyone is playing the game called

"Get Chauvin off and not cause any more destruction than necessary"

I read briefly today about an MMA fighter as an expert witness about the “blood choke” hold that was used.

Must be quite the circus.

Don't worry about it. As long as they're black storytellers.

I think he will - and I think he should be... That video is totally damning to the defense... And I think if he (somehow) gets off on this, Murderapolis will burn like Chicago in 1871....

The drugs may have been the reason the puke died, but Chauvin is, or at least was, a dumbass of the highest order.

His stupidity has caused a lot of damage and misery. He may well end up paying for that, even if he didnt commit M2.

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Exactly. Chauvin had absolutely no reason whatsoever to hold Floyd down like that. You can spin it anyway you want, and I am no fan of Negro thugs, which is precisely what George Floyd was, but Chauvin was wrong in what he did, and will pay the price for it one way or another.

You and Redneck are making the same mistakes that were made in the Rodney King Case. You saw a brief vidieo that looked bad and decided he was wrong/guilty..... To someone who is very familiar with such things, it, at best raises the question as what went on before that. The other problem is that he is on his side. I know of no way that could have killed him. That's probably why it is used by them. I understand it's been used many times and no one else has died because of it's use.
The other thing is that the prosecution is using lay persons and their emotional responses as evidence. That doesn't meet the legal requirements for a conviction. You must have facts that meet the legal requirements.
This was tried in the Freddie Gray Case. And the black judge threw out all of the charges against the six cops. Simply because the evidence did not rise to the legal requirements of the law.
Frankly, if this is the best they can do, there is no case for a conviction. E

Jamesjr hit the nail on the head

If after watching the video you don’t think Chauvin played an active role in the death of Floyd you don’t possess much sympathy. When suspects are a threat use the force required, once they stop being a threat it becomes torture.

That's kind of where I'm at too. The optics of the incident were just terrible.

Please tell us exactly when that threat ceased.

It's too early for me to say. I've been watching it and before the trial I had seen the autopsy report. The key question is: Did Chauvin cause Floyd's death? There's no question that at some point excessive force was used and that the officers showed indifference to Mr. Floyd's situation and whether he was in distress. There is a question as to whether the drugs he consumed caused his death. If I lightly punch you in the nose at the same instance that you suffer a heart attack; did the punch cause your death? To a bystander it might look like I did. If the consensus of the autopsy results is that the level of drugs in his system and his pre-existing health condition was the cause of his death then there is no murder. IMO he is guilty of failure to render or allow first aid while he was clearly in distress. Whether that is a legal transgression, I am not aware. It certainly was a moral failure.

ps, If the level of drugs in his system may have been the cause of his death, that doubt as to the cause of his death should result in his acquittal. The autopsy report and the experts' opinions as to the cause of death is the key to this case.

Turn off your T.V.

What killed George Floyd was George Floyd. If he hadn't been passing counterfeit bills while overdosing on various drugs he would have made that day in the shade.