This works if you have to keep a low profile. I still carry this daily in retirement. Preferable (to me) to a semi, but I'm not expecting a reinforced Haji rifle squad.
Curious about the taped grip. Throw down like The Godfather bathroom stashed piece?
No, it's not a "throwdown". Never had to plant anything on the people I arrested (or shot). This 442 has a set of plastic stocks on it that give a better grip, but are very slick, especially in hot, humid weather. The solution was the sticky electrician's tape, which also helped secure the revolver in my back pocket when I was buying narcotics. I never carried it in a holster or carried extra ammo when I was buying; cops wear nice holsters and carry spare ammo, bad guys don't. Plus, the tape made the gun look like a crook's stolen gun. That impression worked a couple of times when the 442 was spotted. I didn't purchase any dope those times, but I didn't have to fight, either. Bob
Wrapping tape around the grip works.
I use hockey tape. Along with various pieces of material over the years on the backstrap to help mitigate the recoil from shooting it a bunch.
People who see it in person often comment about its unconventional looks until they handle it. Then the lightbulb comes on. Shooting it really is educational compared to a non modified one, especially during a long session.
I have over 5 K rounds through this J Frame in the last 20+ years. Only replaced a broken firing pin (so far).
I don't carry it as a primary, but it is rarely far away.
A fresh wrap of hockey tape and it is Good to Go!
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
The .45 is a bit bigger and heavier, and also holds five rounds. The Pitbull has a unique cylinder in that it does not require moon clips to hold the rounds at the proper depth in the cylinder. There is a spring loaded retainer, built into each round slot in the cylinder that holds the rounds in place. Pretty slick. When you push the extractor rod to eject the spent brass or unfired rounds, it releases it grip on the cartridge rim and they are easily extracted. I consider both of these excellent "truck guns" and with Buffalo Bore Hard Cast Wadcutters (@927fps) in the .44 Special it provides deep, straight line crushing action on bones, with no mushrooming. The hard cast .45ACP loads provide adequate protection against humans and black bears.
Expect about 24 inches of straight-line penetration in living mammalian tissue with this load
The two non-expanding loads are designed to shoot through large shoulder bones or the skull on a black bear.
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I do okay single action....but cant do anything like that double action.
Me either.....i can get 5 center mass hits quick DA fire at 7 or 10yds on a silhouette target with my tuned SP101, but nothing like the groups Mackay posted.
If I had to carry a revolver this is what I would do personally.
While I have 2.5" and 4" Model 19s, I don't consider either ideal, though the 4" is a bit better.
The reason being anything less than a 3" barrel and you risk not getting complete ejection of empty cases during a reload.
While the 4" can work, I would opt for a 3" barrel and high visibility, adjustable sights.
That eliminates the Model 10s and 13s.
Ruger makes a perfect candidate in the 3" GP-100 .357 Mag. They can be found in both the standard and Wiley-Clapp version with a Novak rear and a fiber optic front. It is about as perfect as you could ask for.
Loaded with some Plus P .38s, with a speedloader in your pocket, or better yet, a J Frame. One should be pretty well set.
3" K Frame with adjustable sights or a 3" GP-100. Either would do nicely.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
I do okay single action....but cant do anything like that double action.
Me either.....i can get 5 center mass hits quick DA fire at 7 or 10yds on a silhouette target with my tuned SP101, but nothing like the groups Mackay posted.
The target shown was not fired quickly. It was simply fired standing, and taking my time stacking the DAO trigger. I literally have thousands of rounds through that 442, so I am used to it, and have practiced shooting it out to 50 yards.
That said, most any quality medium frame DA gun from Ruger or S&W can be made to have a very workable trigger, and with practice are quite accurate. The key is lots of practice. Frankly when I take months off from shooting a DA wheelgun, my skills diminish and I suck. It takes a couple hundred rounds to get things back to where they should be again. Most all of us simply don't put in the work that we should to be at the level we want to be when it comes to shooting DA revolvers these days.
THE CHAIR IS AGAINST THE WALL.
The Tikka T3 in .308 Winchester is the Glock 19 of the rifle world.
At those Buffalo Bore velocities you wouldn't get much expansion using lyman#2 or linotype either. Nice shooting M S with the j frame I have a m60 DAO that was a NYP gun that has great DA and is easy to shoot well. Pachmyer rubber on it gives it a solid grip. Mb
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From time to time I'll carry a S&W 310 with 40 S&W/moon clips in a Milt Sparks PMK. Double speedloader pouch made for 357's will allow 2 stacked moon clips of 40's.....that's 6 in the gun, an 24 on the belt. Fairly fast to reload.
Could do the same with 45's in a 6/325. With 357/38's a 6/327 will hold 8 rounds but I don't think you can stack 2 in the pouch due to the longer length....maybe you could with 38's.
Lots of good options. Regardless of what I carried on the belt, I'd probably have jframe/LCR in my front left pocket as well.
Again....just for show/tell. It's really hard to beat a 310/325. Compact enough that it's no bigger than a Glock 19/23. Super fast reloads, the shorter auto rounds allow full ejection. 4 reloads on the belt....with 6 in that's 30 rounds.
From time to time I'll carry a S&W 310 with 40 S&W/moon clips in a Milt Sparks PMK. Double speedloader pouch made for 357's will allow 2 stacked moon clips of 40's.....that's 6 in the gun, an 24 on the belt. Fairly fast to reload.
Could do the same with 45's in a 6/325. With 357/38's a 6/327 will hold 8 rounds but I don't think you can stack 2 in the pouch due to the longer length....maybe you could with 38's.
Lots of good options. Regardless of what I carried on the belt, I'd probably have jframe/LCR in my front left pocket as well.
Again....just for show/tell. It's really hard to beat a 310/325. Compact enough that it's no bigger than a Glock 19/23. Super fast reloads, the shorter auto rounds allow full ejection. 4 reloads on the belt....with 6 in that's 30 rounds.
Those S&W 310 Models are cool revolvers! Never was able to find one I could buy for a reasonable price, unfortunately. 😜
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S&W J-frame, stainless stubby in 38 speical. I can draw, point, and fire 5 rounds freaking ASAP into a 9" pie plate at 7-yards. It just points so well for me. Kind of wonder why I bother carrying a 9mm EDC sometimes.
From time to time I'll carry a S&W 310 with 40 S&W/moon clips in a Milt Sparks PMK. Double speedloader pouch made for 357's will allow 2 stacked moon clips of 40's.....that's 6 in the gun, an 24 on the belt. Fairly fast to reload.
Could do the same with 45's in a 6/325. With 357/38's a 6/327 will hold 8 rounds but I don't think you can stack 2 in the pouch due to the longer length....maybe you could with 38's.
Lots of good options. Regardless of what I carried on the belt, I'd probably have jframe/LCR in my front left pocket as well.
Again....just for show/tell. It's really hard to beat a 310/325. Compact enough that it's no bigger than a Glock 19/23. Super fast reloads, the shorter auto rounds allow full ejection. 4 reloads on the belt....with 6 in that's 30 rounds.
Those S&W 310 Models are cool revolvers! Never was able to find one I could buy for a reasonable price, unfortunately. 😜
Yeah, I really like it. I think the 325 would be pretty cool and really efficient as well. I had a 327 Nightguard that I wish I had kept....357's would be hot, but 8 rounds of 38+p would be a pretty good SD option in it..