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The Word is what we physically have in our hand so we can understand God/Jesus and what He has done for us and thus is our benchmark. Twist and re-word all you like. Without the Word of God, we have nothing that is a sure thing.

In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God. I agree with that. The “Word” in John 1:1 is Jesus. It’s not scripture, and it’s not the Bible. Scripture didn’t exist “In the beginning...”. The Bible didn’t exist “In the beginning...”. Jesus ‘did’ exist “In the beginning...”.

What Does Declining Church Attendance Mean for Our Society?

Well if we just read a few history books about how communism/Socialism (or any other label you want to place on it) you can see exactly what declining church attendance means. The reason it's declined is we as the older generation allowed and turned a blind eye on the brain washing of the mid and young generations about true science and true history, and allowed the communist to school out kids. So now there is no reason they can see why going to church is important. It's no accident. "Professing themselves to be wise, they made themselves fools."

What does it mean?
It means the same thing it meant for every communist country in the last 100 years.
It means we loose, but not through conquest.

We lose to Satan through laziness and selfishness mixed with cowardice.

The fools, wise in their own eyes, will tell themselves (and all others that they can get to listen to them) that "We are not like all those other nations and we'll be different."

I agree that without Jesus, we have nothing that is a sure thing. Jesus is a sure thing.

OK ... I see what you are trying to get this old head to understand.

...... and the Bible isn't?

Not compared to Jesus Himself.

You and I diverge there. You cannot fully have Christ without the Word to help you understand/worship/love/teach Christ.

I disagree. Wholeheartedly. Christianity made great strides during the nearly 300 years before the Bible even existed. It’s OK with me that you and I see things differently regarding this matter. Our divergence here in no way diminishes the reality of Jesus and His resurrection. Some seem to think that Christianity depends upon the Bible. I don’t. Christianity birthed the Bible. Christianity would still be true even if every Bible and manuscript in the world were non-existent.

Have a great day.

You too sir.

People supposedly on the same team can't even agree on what things mean.

Kinda like people on the same team regarding politics, or people on the same team regarding economics...or people on the same team regarding pretty much anything else. Different people sometimes see things differently...even people on the same team. There’s nothing wrong with that. At all. We’re not all a bunch of stamped out cookie cutter automatons. Diversity and disagreements within the body of believers has existed since its inception.

Does Satan speak to people much in the same way as God?

If so, how do we know the difference?

Discernment.

Using what as a standard?

Why do you think there has to be a “standard”...? If you lack wisdom and discernment regarding something and you seek it, you can simply ask God for it, and He’ll generously provide it. That’s a promise. Do you not have confidence in that...?

That’s a good point. When we leave our understanding to what angels write while pissing in the snow, liver shivers, esoteric and existential experiences we’ve left Christianity in the dust and moved on to something else.

Antlers. Were you ever a member at graybeard outdoors?

Antler playing coy. Go figure.

How is anything one hears concerning Christianity tested?

If you witnessed to a 30 year old man who had never heard the Gospel, how would you instruct him to grow in his knowledge and faith?