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Thank you. Hoping I feel better to at least load some ammo during my downtime...

Don't push things to hard and make sure you go back if you get any worse, squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Really?

I "specifically" stated the mRNA and the "ORIGINAL" Polio vaccine (IPV) were "NON-STERILIZNG" shots, and you don't use "non-sterilizing" shots during a live pandemic or you risk "Viral Evasion" and cause more deadly variants to be created that EVADE ANY vaccine. They MUTATE AWAY FROM the shot. Under THAT scenario, it is physically and logistically impossible to vaccinate your way out that BOX CANYON you would put yourself into.

It doesn't MATTER if one is a gene altering designed shot, and the other is a Inactivated virus designed shot. THAT is NOT what creates VIRAL EVASION. Viral evasion is caused because they are "non-sterilizing" shots. Non-sterilizing shots allow the virus that is ACTIVELY in the population to EVADE and mutate into a new and more deadly variants.

Again, you just perfectly demonstrated, again, you have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

World RENOWNED Virologists and Biologists are asking that these shots be stopped for that very reason.

I also noted how SABIN caught the mistake SALK made of developing a "non-sterilizing" POLIO shot to be used during a LIVE pandemic, and corrected it. Otherwise it would have created the situation the world is now facing, high percentage of human die-off from VIRAL EVASION from deadlier variants being created.

And it might already be happening, with some of these reports coming out presently around the world, Brazil strain for instance.

You're a clown, and have no clue what you are talking about.

I have scientific evidence supporting my position 100%. I even used past "historical evidence" of the Polio vaccine to prove it, and yet you still ignored those "facts". That makes you a complete fool.

You have absolutely nothing but your yapping clueless mouth.

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This thread went 9 pages without anyone telling this man all of what he needed medicine wise to keep from going down hill. I stepped forward and gave him what he needed, so the man could get over this illness, and all "you" have, as a mentally sick cyber stalker, is your mental sickness and bravado. You're a clown to be stalking someone who is trying to help save someone's life.

I'd be willing to bet he still didn't get the proper meds from the hospital, being how these "professionals" are sending people away to where they are knocking on deaths doorstep.

I can’t believe I have things in common with people this stupid. You got sick. You have symptoms and are now getting better. How is this any different than any other illness that you’ve had in your life? It blows my mind how silly y’all are about it. I got sick I didn’t feel good. Then I felt worse then I felt better.....lol.

Ha Ha Ha, tell us more about your education and training in the lifesaving field...medicine wise.

LOL


mike r

Didn't have time to read the whole thread. Did the OP die of da covid? I'm assuming so... because that's how all these I'm dying of da covid threads end. So sad.

You make me proud of Mike R's everywhere.

My posts "prove " I know what I'm talking about, and have the scientific evidence to back it up.

Your posts prove you're nothing but a mentally deranged cyber stalker. Fact.

Show us "your" education level, and refute anything I have stated in this thread with scientific proof.

Crickets........is all that will come from you there.

If you are going to make lieing part of your life, you have better improve.

"Not all vaccines produce an immune response that is sterilizing, and neither do they need to to be effective at preventing disease. “Many vaccines are primarily intended to prevent disease and do not necessarily protect against infection,” according to the World Health Organization (WHO). In this case, disease means the response of the body to a pathogen. It’s the illness and all the symptoms of the disease."

Foolish

Eat a fugking chicken and drink a bottle of NyQuil!

Fugk!

I'm afraid you are in over your head. Firstly, sterilising vaccines are extremely rare. Almost all vaccines reduce the amount of infection/colonisation by infectious organisms and very few lead to absolute sterilisation. This isn't as big a problem as you are stating either. All vaccines lead to lower levels of infection and thus to vast reduction in disease states. The concomitant drop in the size of viral populations dramatically reduces the probability of the creation of variants, as seen in studies of rotovirus in infants after vaccination was introduced.

Secondly, on the topic of m-rna, your criticism of it by stating that it changes your 'genes' is extremely out there. Your genes are dna and are found in the nucleus of your cell. m-rna is a transcripted rna (different nucleic acid) that is sent to the ribosomes as a blueprint for creating proteins. They have a short half life whereas dna lasts the life of the cell. No change in dna, no change in your genes. Your cells produce a protein for a short period that isn't naturally occurring in your body and it stimulates an immune response from both t-cells and antibodies being produced. This latter part is very similar to what other vaccine technologies do.

As to m-rna technology, it's been studied for quite some time mostly with regard to cancer treatment. It has recently started to be studied for vaccines, and covid-19 is the first usage of it in this regard. The technology is tested and true, the only difference is the protein being produced.

I studied virology and immunology pretty extensively in University and have kept up with it for the most part over the years. I can say with a reasonable level of certainty that there are few to no 'renowned' Virologists or Immunologists saying we must stop the vaccines. There are a few quacks out there. There was a big list of supposed doctors and medical practitioners that later turned out to be part fake, partly composed of quacks like the demon semen lady and partly composed of such reliable sources as homeopaths (modern snake oil salesmen).

ps: your understanding of 'viral evasion' is so flawed as to not require any response from me. Seriously, if this were true in the manner you stated no vaccines would work.

What do virology, C suites, and slayed elk all have in common?

Thanks for proving once again, you have zero clue about the subject at hand.

The fact you spell lying as "lieing" is a dead giveaway you're an idiot, and secondly, you copy/pasting from CDC quoting WHO, who have both been lying throughout the illness, showing you are incapable, "yourself", of constructing sentences to demonstrate your intellect, proves you're nothing but a troll.

What you just posted has nothing whatsoever to do with "viral evasion", from non-sterilizing shots, being administered, while a virus is "active" in the public, and proves to anyone who is educated on the matter, you are absolutely clueless.

Non-sterilizing vaccines work, and "are safe" only when a virus is not active within a population. That is what your posting is referencing, but you didn't know that, or you would not be using it for an example in this "live active virus in a population" scenario.

You are a fool, a dumb fool.

Run along.

Please tell me when a virus is not active in a population? Foolish

Smallpox in the USA you complete FOOL.

You're a dumbazz, and a troll.

Oh and Polio, you know, the example I used above, you FOOL.

That's two. Do you need more evidence to prove you ARE a COMPLETE FOOL?

I wonder how a non-sterilising vaccine like rotavirus vaccine works so well in a population in which the virus has been endemic...

Kinda disproves your point.

Anyone checked on Dc223 lately ?

There are case of both of those diseases in the world. look it up fool.