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A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that.
They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. I don’t think most 25 year veterans of Brooklyn Fugking Center, MN would consider that a high stress situation. I’m pretty sure they’d classify it as a weekday. Sure seemed high stress to her. No argument there. Lol
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that.
They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. I don’t think most 25 year veterans of Brooklyn Fugking Center, MN would consider that a high stress situation. I’m pretty sure they’d classify it as a weekday. Sure seemed high stress to her. Which means she was in the wrong line of work
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Which means she was in the wrong line of work
Yep. I was a kid when they started pushing this crap. Before that, the ladies checked the meters, and that was it.
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Soooo ol'Dante bears no responsibility for being warranted and doing stupid? It ain't homicide if you do stupid to the police. The police tend to do police things,sure she shot him instead of tazing but is that a prisonable offence? Sure it'll co$t her but she'll walk.
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well its to late for that young man he is dead , yes he should have not resisted but if i was a cop i would have just let him go and caught him later at home if he needed to be arrested. simple thing to do and no one gets hurt . some how some way someone needs to figure out how these young black people got to learn not to resist a police officer and behave themselves ???? Because he’s calm and compliant at his house? And fortified.. with more weapons. LMAO. He'd probably forget about the outstanding warrant if at home too, you know be all chill. Prolly offer LEO's cake and kool-aid.
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I guess we'll have to see how this pans out and what defenses will be proffered. #pleadeal AND #INSURANCE LOTTERY
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A lot of answers could be answered from one word used a lot in this thread "she"
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A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that.
They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself.
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They are calling it an accidental discharge. I had heard the guy had a warrant. Is that correct, and if so, a warrant for what? For carrying a firearm without a permit.... Thanks for the info. I hate to think he gave up his life for that! There's a bit more to the story. The perp had been previously convicted of armed robbery. Was on probation or parole on that conviction. Then two more warrants. One for gun possession and another for eluding arrest. He seriously did not want to face the judge.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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He wasn't convicted for armed robbery, he was charged with it and was out on bail pending trial.
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He chose his poison. You don't want to risk getting shot? Don't resist. Don't get stupid.
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He wasn't convicted for armed robbery, he was charged with it and was out on bail pending trial. Lots of misinformation, apparently out there. I previously read probation rather than bail, plus additional warrents. Like trying to find factual information regarding viral infections and vaccines against same. Bull Schitt abounds.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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His previous arrests and convictions are irrelevant.
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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i gotta recant what i thought of Daunte Wright who was shot and killed by the police lady, the warrant for his arrest is for being accused of choking and robbing a woman at gun point, so yes there was some stress in that situation.
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The female TSA carry guns and tazers too. Better not get them hyped up on adrenaline.
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His previous arrests and convictions are irrelevant.
They might, had she shot him on purpose, rather than let him loose on the streets again. But yes, totally irrelevant as she makes the claim of accidental discharge. I sure am glad I never had one of those.
People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.
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The minute he decided to fight and get in back in the vehicle is the minute I decided I didn’t care if it was a taser or pistol or howitzer. He picked his poison.
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I don’t understand what’s the big deal about her shooting a thug who was resisting arrest. He escaped into his car where who knows what hidden weapons were available to him. Even a knife would have allowed him to the officers attempting to restrain him. The cops shouldn’t have to risk their lives while arresting this thug.
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The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.
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How do you prove a mistake of fact?
It's an affirmative defense, so the standard of proof would be mere preponderance of evidence, i.e., a reasonable person would conclude, based on the facts asserted by the defense (along with proffered evidence), that it's more likely the case than not. I think such things as her voice having been recorded saying, right before the shooting, "I'm going to Taser you," while holding the Glock, and then her voice, after the shooting, expressing surprise, stating "I just shot him," would satisfy the standard. An example of a case where the mistake of fact was not found to be an adequate defense can be found in Allen v. State, 290 Ga. 743, (2012). There the defendant believed that the victim was not in the trajectory of the bullet fired at a third party. The Court ruled that his belief did not constitute the type of mistake of fact that would serve as a defense to malice murder or other crimes."
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