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Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Ghostinthemachine #15995927 04/15/21
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that. They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. I don’t think most 25 year veterans of Brooklyn Fugking Center, MN would consider that a high stress situation. I’m pretty sure they’d classify it as a weekday. Sure seemed high stress to her. No argument there. Lol Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

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Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Ghostinthemachine #15995938 04/15/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that. They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. I don’t think most 25 year veterans of Brooklyn Fugking Center, MN would consider that a high stress situation. I’m pretty sure they’d classify it as a weekday. Sure seemed high stress to her. Which means she was in the wrong line of work I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... jwp475 #15995950 04/15/21
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,565 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 131,565 USA	Originally Posted by jwp475 Which means she was in the wrong line of work Yep. I was a kid when they started pushing this crap. Before that, the ladies checked the meters, and that was it.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996017 04/15/21
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,197 down home in Dixie D Daverageguy Campfire Regular
Daverageguy Campfire Regular D Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,197 down home in Dixie	Soooo ol'Dante bears no responsibility for being warranted and doing stupid? It ain't homicide if you do stupid to the police. The police tend to do police things,sure she shot him instead of tazing but is that a prisonable offence? Sure it'll co$t her but she'll walk. Bangflop! another skinning job due to .260 and proper shot placement.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Raeford #15996030 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,222 south of south local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana
local_dirt Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 44,222 south of south	Originally Posted by Raeford Originally Posted by local_dirt Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by pete53 well its to late for that young man he is dead , yes he should have not resisted but if i was a cop i would have just let him go and caught him later at home if he needed to be arrested. simple thing to do and no one gets hurt . some how some way someone needs to figure out how these young black people got to learn not to resist a police officer and behave themselves ???? Because he’s calm and compliant at his house? And fortified.. with more weapons. LMAO. He'd probably forget about the outstanding warrant if at home too, you know be all chill. Prolly offer LEO's cake and kool-aid. Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH

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Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... deflave #15996056 04/15/21
Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,075 GA, USA ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger
ready_on_the_right Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 18,075 GA, USA	Originally Posted by deflave Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye I guess we'll have to see how this pans out and what defenses will be proffered. #pleadeal AND #INSURANCE LOTTERY God, Family, and Country. NRA Endowment Member

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996094 04/15/21
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 24,370 7 700LH Campfire Ranger
700LH Campfire Ranger 7 Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 24,370	A lot of answers could be answered from one word used a lot in this thread "she"

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Ghostinthemachine #15996302 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 14,196 Marshall NC S simonkenton7 Campfire Outfitter
simonkenton7 Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 14,196 Marshall NC	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine A woman panicked in a high stress situation, there's nothing unusual about that. They shouldn't be cops or soldiers, period. Thank you. I couldn't have said it better myself.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... RickyD #15996330 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho I Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger
Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger I Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho	Originally Posted by RickyD Originally Posted by fburgtx Originally Posted by RickyD They are calling it an accidental discharge. I had heard the guy had a warrant. Is that correct, and if so, a warrant for what? For carrying a firearm without a permit.... Thanks for the info. I hate to think he gave up his life for that! There's a bit more to the story. The perp had been previously convicted of armed robbery. Was on probation or parole on that conviction. Then two more warrants. One for gun possession and another for eluding arrest. He seriously did not want to face the judge. People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996337 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 14,196 Marshall NC S simonkenton7 Campfire Outfitter
simonkenton7 Campfire Outfitter S Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 14,196 Marshall NC	He wasn't convicted for armed robbery, he was charged with it and was out on bail pending trial.

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Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996358 04/15/21
Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 11,981 Texas R rainshot Campfire Outfitter
rainshot Campfire Outfitter R Joined: Jan 2016 Posts: 11,981 Texas	He chose his poison. You don't want to risk getting shot? Don't resist. Don't get stupid.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... simonkenton7 #15996372 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho I Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger
Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger I Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho	Originally Posted by simonkenton7 He wasn't convicted for armed robbery, he was charged with it and was out on bail pending trial. Lots of misinformation, apparently out there. I previously read probation rather than bail, plus additional warrents. Like trying to find factual information regarding viral infections and vaccines against same. Bull Schitt abounds. People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Idaho_Shooter #15996407 04/15/21
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida deflave Campfire Sage
deflave Campfire Sage Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 115,424 South Florida	His previous arrests and convictions are irrelevant. Originally Posted by Geno67 Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Originally Posted by Judman Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. Originally Posted by KSMITH My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996410 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,283 Northern USA P pete53 Campfire Outfitter
pete53 Campfire Outfitter P Joined: Dec 2015 Posts: 8,283 Northern USA	i gotta recant what i thought of Daunte Wright who was shot and killed by the police lady, the warrant for his arrest is for being accused of choking and robbing a woman at gun point, so yes there was some stress in that situation. LIFE NRA , we vote Red up here, Norseman

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996422 04/15/21
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 227 Northwest B Billc Campfire Member
Billc Campfire Member B Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 227 Northwest	The female TSA carry guns and tazers too. Better not get them hyped up on adrenaline.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... deflave #15996500 04/15/21
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho I Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger
Idaho_Shooter Campfire Ranger I Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 25,858 West Treasure Valley, Idaho	Originally Posted by deflave His previous arrests and convictions are irrelevant. They might, had she shot him on purpose, rather than let him loose on the streets again. But yes, totally irrelevant as she makes the claim of accidental discharge. I sure am glad I never had one of those. People who choose to brew up their own storms bitch loudest about the rain.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996532 04/15/21
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,194 M MarkWV Campfire Tracker
MarkWV Campfire Tracker M Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 3,194	The minute he decided to fight and get in back in the vehicle is the minute I decided I didn’t care if it was a taser or pistol or howitzer. He picked his poison.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996551 04/15/21
Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,600 Santa Clara CA, USA ConradCA Campfire Outfitter
ConradCA Campfire Outfitter Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 10,600 Santa Clara CA, USA	I don’t understand what’s the big deal about her shooting a thug who was resisting arrest. He escaped into his car where who knows what hidden weapons were available to him. Even a knife would have allowed him to the officers attempting to restrain him. The cops shouldn’t have to risk their lives while arresting this thug.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... Tarquin #15996586 04/15/21
Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,747 Kane WY W WYcoyote Campfire Tracker
WYcoyote Campfire Tracker W Joined: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,747 Kane WY	The hypocrisy of this case and the Ashli Babbitt shooting is astounding.

Re: Female cop grabs side arm instead of Taser... The_Real_Hawkeye #15996592 04/15/21
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA J jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana
jwp475 Campfire 'Bwana J Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 30,903 USA	Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye Originally Posted by jwp475 How do you prove a mistake of fact? It's an affirmative defense, so the standard of proof would be mere preponderance of evidence, i.e., a reasonable person would conclude, based on the facts asserted by the defense (along with proffered evidence), that it's more likely the case than not. I think such things as her voice having been recorded saying, right before the shooting, "I'm going to Taser you," while holding the Glock, and then her voice, after the shooting, expressing surprise, stating "I just shot him," would satisfy the standard. An example of a case where the mistake of fact was not found to be an adequate defense can be found in Allen v. State, 290 Ga. 743, (2012). There the defendant believed that the victim was not in the trajectory of the bullet fired at a third party. The Court ruled that his belief did not constitute the type of mistake of fact that would serve as a defense to malice murder or other crimes." I got banned on another web site for a debate that happened on this site. That's a first

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