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go for it. I am still driving my 1988 4Runner
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Pro- you’ll have a 4Runner
Con- your wife isn’t going to let you drive it.
Big 4Runner fan here.
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Seems the the price you are looking at is the going rate. Check Car Gurus prices. I bought a used 4R 3 weeks ago. Wished I had bought one before New Years.
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Been using cars.com a bit lately. If you are willing to travel can probably find a pretty good deal on new. https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/843857901/overview/I tend to just buy local and avoid the trouble but road trips can yield savings if so inclined.
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There is a 1997, 2000, a 2001 and a 2016 in my driveway. All run fantastic! Mileage goes from 318K to 60k.
4runners are great machines. Buy it
Faith and love of others knows no mileage nor bounds. That's simply the way it is.
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After the game is over, the king and the pawn go into the same box.
Italian Proverb
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Ordered a 4Runner TRD Off Road Premium about a month ago.Just over $41,000.Dealer said it would take 2-3 months to get.
Got a call from the dealer a few days ago,Toyota shut down the 4Runner line in Japan for at least 6 weeks and raised the prices.Another $430 for this one.
Wanted to know if I wanted to cancel the order.
Still have it coming.Might be here by late summer.
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Just reread the original post.....this time I noticed TRD.....that is a bit of a difference.......not sure how much....
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Normally a new vehicle is about 10% off sticker less incentives. So check that before you buy a 4 year old 4 runner for that much money. Covid is producing shortages with everything. Cars,boats,motorcycles, ammo, basically anything cool to buy right now
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My wife is looking at a 2017 4Runner trd. I’m looking for pros and cons. I don’t know much about Toyota so any help would be appreciated. It’s clean as a whistle. It has 63,700 miles and asking price is $33,900. I’ve read that Toyota’s run forever that’s why we’re looking at them. Thanks for the opinions. My suggestion from a long time 'Yota guy Take that same $33K (ish) or less if looking at used Search around Car Maxx is a start....'Lexus GX 460' This is basically a Land Cruiser Prado 150 in Europe...built in Japan In the States I'd call it a 4Runner on steroids....very similar platform though 301 HP V8....prob same fuel mileage as the V6 4Runner along with more space (3rd row seats too) Much better build....quieter.....more cab insulation...smooooth 6 speed transmission You'll pay more for the Runner & get less truck...along with the GX probably has never saw a dirt road We bought this one in pic Jan '20...$22K w/95 miles..2 owners...AZ & NV from Car Max Even before the mods added it would easily fetch the same $22K+ a year later...now w/110K miles The GX 460 uses the 4.6L Toyota motor...also with a timing chain not belt...great truck ! Link is only a quick example from Car Max...they fetch high book on their vehicles https://www.carmax.com/car/20218277![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/9pLg2sg.jpg)
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Toyota's especially automatics with the new V6 could use more gear. I've seen where new Tacomas with 4.88 or 5.29 gears in the auto get better mileage and are turning less RPMs than the manual in the same rig.
In the auto - it spends a lot of time in 5th, never 6th and hunts for right operating range/power a lot. I imagine but do not know - 4 Runner might be similar.
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My wife is looking at a 2017 4Runner trd. I’m looking for pros and cons. I don’t know much about Toyota so any help would be appreciated. It’s clean as a whistle. It has 63,700 miles and asking price is $33,900. I’ve read that Toyota’s run forever that’s why we’re looking at them. Thanks for the opinions. My suggestion from a long time 'Yota guy Take that same $33K (ish) or less if looking at used Search around Car Maxx is a start....'Lexus GX 460' This is basically a Land Cruiser Prado 150 in Europe...built in Japan In the States I'd call it a 4Runner on steroids....very similar platform though 301 HP V8....prob same fuel mileage as the V6 4Runner along with more space (3rd row seats too) Much better build....quieter.....more cab insulation...smooooth 6 speed transmission You'll pay more for the Runner & get less truck...along with the GX probably has never saw a dirt road We bought this one in pic Jan '20...$22K w/95 miles..2 owners...AZ & NV from Car Max Even before the mods added it would easily fetch the same $22K+ a year later...now w/110K miles The GX 460 uses the 4.6L Toyota motor...also with a timing chain not belt...great truck ! Link is only a quick example from Car Max...they fetch high book on their vehicles https://www.carmax.com/car/20218277does it have the same width as a 4 runner, how about rear seat room?
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If you can wait 6-8 months, do not buy now, the used car market is the highest I've seen it in 20 years, I run a large car dealership and everyone in the country is fighting for used inventory right now. New cars manufacturers are having a heck of a time producing cars because of a shortage of semiconductors of sheet metal of seat cushions and of rubber. That being said that is putting upward pressure on used car prices because there are no new on the lots so for everyone telling you to buy a new car if you can find one there will be zero incentives on it or very little and you will pay close to sticker. Wait 6 months, and all the lots will be back to being full, and incentives will come in droves, just my two cents from being around the business for years but I'm sure everyone else on here knows more
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IMHO Toyota makes the finest vehicle out there ... we have a 2004 4Runner with 300k+ miles we bought new and handed-down to all four of our kids as they came of driving age. It's still going strong.
My wife drives a 2020 Lexus, her third.
I drive an old F150 with over 300k miles but still, I've owned a Supra (in my younger days) and we owned a Corolla and Camry when we were first married ... all great vehicles. We actually owned a Sequoia too but traded it for my wife's first Lexus. I hated to see that one go.
My bucket list vehicle is a late 80s Land Cruiser.
Here's how you know how good Toyotas are ... they are the preferred vehicles of most Middle Easterners. Over there you see them everywhere especially old Land Cruisers and series 8100 small pickups. They are practically indestructible. When I was working over there that's all we drove were Land Cruisers and 4Runners.
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In a nation where anything goes ... eventually, everything will. We're almost there.
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We are a Toyota family. Between my wife and I we have put ~800k miles on Toyotas since we have been married.
My wife has had 2 Camrys, and she is on her first Rav4. She will drive it into the ground.
I've had 4 Tacoma's (going back to high school), and now on my 2nd Tundra.
Between my first and second Tundra, I bought a 4Runner.
It lasted 6 months before I traded it in for my second Tundra. The 4Runner V6 is gutless. Towing sucks, no bed for hauling lumber, gear, etc. Interior is not spacious. Fuel efficiency was below average (but all Toyotas are, to be honest)
In short: I HATED it. But, I am a truck guy and have truck needs.
Also, $40k for a **2017** 4Runner with 60k miles is just STUPID. Pay $5k more and get a brand new one off the lot. That breaks the Campfire rule of 'buy used, pay cash".
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If you can wait 6-8 months, do not buy now, the used car market is the highest I've seen it in 20 years, I run a large car dealership and everyone in the country is fighting for used inventory right now. New cars manufacturers are having a heck of a time producing cars because of a shortage of semiconductors of sheet metal of seat cushions and of rubber. That being said that is putting upward pressure on used car prices because there are no new on the lots so for everyone telling you to buy a new car if you can find one there will be zero incentives on it or very little and you will pay close to sticker. Wait 6 months, and all the lots will be back to being full, and incentives will come in droves, just my two cents from being around the business for years but I'm sure everyone else on here knows more I agree, but I feel like its going to take 2 years to clear the back log. so if you want to wait 2 years, umm ok. I would just say shop better.
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IMHO Toyota makes the finest vehicle out there ... we have a 2004 4Runner with 300k+ miles we bought new and handed-down to all four of our kids as they came of driving age. It's still going strong.
My wife drives a 2020 Lexus, her third.
I drive an old F150 with over 300k miles but still, I've owned a Supra (in my younger days) and we owned a Corolla and Camry when we were first married ... all great vehicles. We actually owned a Sequoia too but traded it for my wife's first Lexus. I hated to see that one go.
My bucket list vehicle is a late 80s Land Cruiser.
Here's how you know how good Toyotas are ... they are the preferred vehicles of most Middle Easterners. Over there you see them everywhere especially old Land Cruisers and series 8100 small pickups. They are practically indestructible. When I was working over there that's all we drove were Land Cruisers and 4Runners. Late '80's Cruiser........prob the holy grail in the Toyota LC 80 series--triple locked This pic is my most recent 100 Series....'03 Lexus LX 470---2 owner AZ truck...195K miles currently This one was tough enough to find in my color---Gray/gray........and rust free AZ native Looked at one from CT & MA......I ran away as fast as I could...undercarriage was totally wasted Toyota builds the LC & Lexus LX to be used for a 25 year life span...in 3rd world countries Toyota's 4.7L V8 is nearly bullet proof (as most are) but do require the T/Belt & W/pump every 90-100K miles ![[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]](https://i.imgur.com/DD2LOoC.jpg)
T R U M P W O N !
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My wife is looking at a 2017 4Runner trd. I’m looking for pros and cons. I don’t know much about Toyota so any help would be appreciated. It’s clean as a whistle. It has 63,700 miles and asking price is $33,900. I’ve read that Toyota’s run forever that’s why we’re looking at them. Thanks for the opinions. My suggestion from a long time 'Yota guy Take that same $33K (ish) or less if looking at used Search around Car Maxx is a start....'Lexus GX 460' This is basically a Land Cruiser Prado 150 in Europe...built in Japan In the States I'd call it a 4Runner on steroids....very similar platform though 301 HP V8....prob same fuel mileage as the V6 4Runner along with more space (3rd row seats too) Much better build....quieter.....more cab insulation...smooooth 6 speed transmission You'll pay more for the Runner & get less truck...along with the GX probably has never saw a dirt road We bought this one in pic Jan '20...$22K w/95 miles..2 owners...AZ & NV from Car Max Even before the mods added it would easily fetch the same $22K+ a year later...now w/110K miles The GX 460 uses the 4.6L Toyota motor...also with a timing chain not belt...great truck ! Link is only a quick example from Car Max...they fetch high book on their vehicles https://www.carmax.com/car/20218277does it have the same width as a 4 runner, how about rear seat room? remember Toyota builds these on a similar platform.......similar years can interchange certain parts So specs are close....but the two trucks are night & day...Lexus pays closer attention to detail---fit & finish Actually Lexus takes the best of the best Toyota employees and puts them on the Lexus assembly line
T R U M P W O N !
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4.0 engine = good. 165k on mine with nothing more than regular oil / filter changes.
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My 2016 4Runner is not a Lexus, thank God. No way I would drop the coin on a Lexus when the 4Runner is the same thing, minus the powder puff and perfume and at much less cost!
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