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Swedes aren't Scandinavians? :-)


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Originally Posted by pathfinder76
What does Lapua look like?

In the cartridges I've seen, this:
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Note the ring around the primer pocket. No, they're not mine.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Swedes aren't Scandinavians? :-)


In English usage, Scandinavia can refer to Denmark, Norway and Sweden, sometimes more narrowly to the Scandinavian Peninsula, or more broadly to include the Åland Islands, the Faroe Islands, Finland and Iceland.

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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
Originally Posted by pathfinder76
What does Lapua look like?

In the cartridges I've seen, this:
[Linked Image from i.imgur.com]

Note the ring around the primer pocket. No, they're not mine.
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That ring is a crimp. Ran across some Hornady 308 match brass that has the same.


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No, it's not a crimp. Comes right out of the box as components with it. Do I need to go take a picture?

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Wikepedia aside, Scandinavia is indeed considered a region, due to the similarity of languages in Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and many other cultural similarities Plus, Norway and Sweden have a long history of connections, including being ruled by one king not all that long ago--and 500 years ago Denmark, Norway and Sweden were all ruled by one king.

Norway and Sweden also co-developed the 6.5x55 "Swedish," but used the cartridge in different rifles, the Swedes various Mausers (the reason it's often called the 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser cartridge) and the Norwegians the Krag-Jorgensen, developed in Norway. Though (perhaps not so oddly) the first country adopt the Krag-Jorgensen rifle as their military rifle was Denmark--and the last was Norway--after the U.S. adopted "the Krag" in the early 1890s.

Finland does not share the same basic language as the other Scandinavian countries, though it does essentially form another "wing" of the Norway/Sweden peninsula. Iceland was primarily settled by Norwegians, after originally being settled by Gaelics, so it's cultural and language roots are primarily Norwegian..


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.



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Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
No, it's not a crimp. Comes right out of the box as components with it. Do I need to go take a picture?


The picture you took was not of a "component." The picture you took appeared to me to be fired factory rounds.


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Originally Posted by Craigster
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
No, it's not a crimp. Comes right out of the box as components with it. Do I need to go take a picture?


The picture you took was not of a "component." The picture you took appeared to me to be fired factory rounds.


Duh



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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Swedes aren't Scandinavians? :-)


lol.....Correct, which is why I made the distinction of Swedes AND Scandinavians.......

At least, the Swedes I know don't consider themselves Scandinavians. Preferring to make a distinction between themselves and the other Scandinavian countries. At least, that was the case with two Swedes when I made the comment including Sweden with Scandinavia.

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Originally Posted by alpinecrick
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Swedes aren't Scandinavians? :-)


lol.....Correct, which is why I made the distinction of Swedes AND Scandinavians.......

At least, the Swedes I know don't consider themselves Scandinavians. Preferring to make a distinction between themselves and the other Scandinavian countries. At least, that was the case with two Swedes when I made the comment including Sweden with Scandinavia.

Finns aren't Scandinavians but Swedes sure are.

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No, it's not a crimp. Comes right out of the box as components with it. Do I need to go take a picture?


The picture you took was not of a "component." The picture you took appeared to me to be fired factory rounds.


Duh


Are you addressing me ?


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
I have no idea where Barnes VOR-TX ammo is produced. I do have a couple of boxes of VOR-TX 6.5 Creedmoor ammunition--which does not say where it was made. The only info on the box says it's copyrighted in 2017 by "Barnes Bullets, LLC. P.O.B. 620, Mona Utah." However, copyright had nothing to do with where it's made. (Interestingly, the small print on the box is both in English and French, perhaps to make it easier to sell in Canada--or at least Quebec. As far as I can ascertain, lead-free bullets are not required there--or in France itself--except perhaps in certain areas.)

Barnes was acquired by Remington in 2009, so we might suspect my ammo was made by Remington--or at the least, Remington supplied the Barnes headstamped brass to be loaded in Utah. But Remington's ammo plant in Lonoke, Arkansas was sold to Vista Outdoors last year--a conglomerate that owns many shooting-product companies, including Alliant Powder, CCI, Speer, Butler Creek, Weaver, etc. The Arkansas ammo plant is now back up and running again, but Barnes Bullets was sold to Sierra Bullets, so is no longer part of Remington.

I cant say for certainty who makes Barnes ammo, but their brass certainly isnt Remington. In 300 Ultra barnes cases have drastically different weights than Rem cases.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by Craigster
Originally Posted by Whttail_in_MT
No, it's not a crimp. Comes right out of the box as components with it. Do I need to go take a picture?


The picture you took was not of a "component." The picture you took appeared to me to be fired factory rounds.


Duh

In your opinions, is this ring any different?
[Linked Image]

And regardless whether it is or not, my point was that the Lapua brass I've seen has had a ring in the primer pockets whereas Barnes brass hasn't.

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Originally Posted by jwp475
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Contact Barnes or Remington.


Why would he contact Remington? I plainly stated in my earlier post on this thread that Remington has nothing to do with Barnes--because Remington, as an entire entity, declared bankruptcy in 2019, and the various parts of what used to be Remington were sold at auction in 2020.


Ok ok contact Winchester then gees no need to get all grandpa grumpy on us..


Why in hell would you want to contact Winchester?
Geez, you post stupid crap and then get offend when called on it




You must be a real ph ucking hoot at Parties pull that stick out of your ass and get a sense of humor retard... only idiot posting stupid chit is you..

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by jmp300wsm
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Originally Posted by AB2506
Contact Barnes or Remington.


Why would he contact Remington? I plainly stated in my earlier post on this thread that Remington has nothing to do with Barnes--because Remington, as an entire entity, declared bankruptcy in 2019, and the various parts of what used to be Remington were sold at auction in 2020.


Ok ok contact Winchester then gees no need to get all grandpa grumpy on us..



Why don't you take a piece of your own advice and learn how to read before you throw your sucker in the dirt and stomp off toward home and mommy......................Might keep you from looking like a dumb arse yourself in the future!!


Look another retard is on the scene.. go shove some more nickels in the gumball machine retard..

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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by jwp475
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Originally Posted by AB2506
Contact Barnes or Remington.


Why would he contact Remington? I plainly stated in my earlier post on this thread that Remington has nothing to do with Barnes--because Remington, as an entire entity, declared bankruptcy in 2019, and the various parts of what used to be Remington were sold at auction in 2020.


Ok ok contact Winchester then gees no need to get all grandpa grumpy on us..


Why in hell would you want to contact Winchester?
Geez, you post stupid crap and then get offend when called on it




You must be a real ph ucking hoot at Parties pull that stick out of your ass and get a sense of humor retard... only idiot posting stupid chit is you..


You are a certified idiot



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Originally Posted by Mule Deer

Finland does not share the same basic language as the other Scandinavian countries..


^^^Truth^^^

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Yes, I work at Barnes Bullets as a Ballistic Lab Tech. Ryan Farr works just up the stairs in CS. He and Chase are super good guys and know their stuff. All current Barnes Ammo is made at our facility in Mona, Utah. When owned by Remington, some of our ammo was made at the Lonoke, AR factory, now owned by Vista/Federal with the balance being made here, in Utah.

Sorry for the late reply. 12 hour graveyard shifts kind of take it out this old guy.

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Originally Posted by UPhiker

Finns aren't Scandinavians but Swedes sure are.


Maybe it's the current politics of Sweden they were referring to.......


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