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where is the impetus for people to work,many young people and even not so young have no desire to work.as long as this insane goverment pays double a week to stay home,hands out stimulus checks like candy can you expect otherwise.its ok,they will just keep printing money and handing it out for the stupid sheep to sit on there lazy asses.then the grandchildren and great grandchildren will suffer with paying it all back.who knows maybe the cancerous far left will allow the country to go back to some normalcy in a few more years.

Lotta factory jobs around here where she wouldn't bring home much more than that. Which is why I think it's a big load of bullshyt when you see these people harping on "bring back the factory work to bring back America's middle class". For one thing unless you're in management, much factory work doesn't pay middle class wages anymore since the unions are gone and for another all they're going to do is end up having a whole lotta illegal immigrants doing those factory jobs because they don't pay shyt. We've already got one factory here that's been busted for having illegals working several times because none of the locals want to work for what they pay. Nobody values blue collar labor much anymore. Fact is, a single mother with a couple kids, which we all know there are tons of, is much better off on welfare than working a typical factory job these days. She'd have to be plain stupid to work for 25-30k a year when she can collect more than double that on welfare and provide a better living for her kids.

For all those whining about certain jobs not paying much, here you go. If they can replace you with just another warm body, you have no added value. In order to make more than the average monkey, you have to be able to do something that the next monkey cant do or isn't willing to do. If a robot took your job, learn to work on robots.

Almost anybody can be replaced pretty quickly and easily. Especially those who think they can't. And you simply have no business bitchin about people who don't want to work for peanuts. This ain't fuggin China. American men and women expect to make enough from full time employment to live in a house, eat a couple times a day and drive a car to work. If they can't they'll simply let an illegal have the job and go on welfare so people like you have something more to complain about.

Well, if true, then they're making minimum wage in NY for doing production work. Which is relatively insane, depending on the type of factory.

Minimum wage is 12.50 in upstate NY. Many production line factory jobs start in the 13-15.00 an hour range and you'll typically get a 50 cent to a dollar an hour raise per year so it takes awhile to get to a decent livable wage.

All you guys who think it's lazy kids and government handouts...go inquire when you see those signs. You will find out its part time work with no benefits and weird schedules with no upward mobility options and schitty conditions.

That's what "full employment" these days looks like. Clocking in so you can barely survive.

Call it what you want but it ain't good.

That would suck. Hugely.

$15 is not that bad in semi rural areas for a starting wage. But $13 isn't much. Might as well pick fruit or something.

And no matter how much work ethic is involved they don't give a damn because they can replace you for 9 bucks an hour.

Absolutely correct.

That is certainly true in the case of food service, C stores, and even many grocery stores nowadays.

And retail and some manufacturing too.

Some guys on here still think It's Mayberry in 1959 and since they did it you can too in 2021

And those companies aren't hurt a bit by their bad decisions because uncle Sam props them up too

It ain't "the market", it's Covid "relief" and unemployment checks keeping small businesses from hiring.

Ain't no fugging "market" about it!

Fifteen an hour is barely liveable if you're single here and we're pretty rural.. If you've got a kid to support, forget it. You ain't gonna make it on 15 an hour and if you started at 13.00 an hour it may well take you four years to get to 15.00.

Most manufacturing jobs here will have you starting through a temp agency making very close to minimum wage and will keep you as a temp for up to a year with no benefits before they decide to hire you direct or let you go and replace you with another through the temp agency..

A person could do OK here as we are in a depressed area. Housing is not expensive like the rest of the state. At $15 an hour, which would work out to close to $2K a month take home (25% tax rate) one could even purchase a house in town, especially the fixer upper type. That's based on out mortgage payment from a late 2016 purchase, and I think the rates are similar.

Of course, a belt would need to be tightened regarding $4K sets of tires and wheels on the truck, beer drinking and hell raising, etc. But it could be done.

Drop that to $13/hr and it definitely means a roommate situation for someone starting out, and in the case of a family a part time job at least for a second earner.

Not sure what housing costs are in your area. 2 brm rentals in town are +/- $700-800. Some fixers go as low as $75K.

But we don't have any factories here any more. Used to be a wood moldings plant, and a lumber mill. Both shut now and the millwork place is a feed store now. Always talk of the lumber mill restarting.

They could use a plant to turn these dang junipers into pellet fuel, that would help. But every harvest plan on public land would have lawsuits filed no doubt.

Interesting, as having worked for temp agencies, the company is paying them near double for the worker than the wage they get. Keeps the company from having to do book work, insurance, etc.........almost all covered by the temp agency.

Good business model for the companies involved, not so much for the worker..................of course.

Rent/ cost of living is very comparable to here where you're at then. The biggest town in this County is pop. 6,700. We've lost quite a bit of manufacturing here over the course of the past 30 years but we do still have some. 40 years ago a man could support a family on a production line factory job here. Not anymore.