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Neither were Jesus’ followers that I mentioned.
Yeah, but to be fair I haven't seen too many popes accused of being followers of Jesus.
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No Pope defender here, but what would you expect a guy in charge of a “country” the size of a few hundred acres to do in the middle of a war surrounded by thousands of troops belonging to a dictator from another country? Would you have expected the Pope to denounce Hitler and tell German Catholics to rebel when a NAZI column could have driven up to the gates of the Vatican and carried him off? Yes. A very small band of Jesus’ followers...after they witnessed His resurrection...were emboldened and stood up to the power structure and might of the Roman Empire. Yeah, well the Pope ain’t Jesus. Neither were all the troops and common people that stood before the Reich. Meh...we’ll all be dead soon enough and WW II will be just another war in the long history of war where poor saps were forced to fight for this reason or that instead some imaginary crusade against allegedly unimaginable evil so many perceive it to be now.
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Meh...we’ll all be dead soon enough and WW II will be just another war in the long history of war where poor saps were forced to fight for this reason or that instead some imaginary crusade against allegedly unimaginable evil so many perceive it to be now.
Yeah...poor men dying for rich men's assets. Nothing ever really changes.
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Meh...we’ll all be dead soon enough and WW II will be just another war in the long history of war where poor saps were forced to fight for this reason or that instead some imaginary crusade against allegedly unimaginable evil so many perceive it to be now.
Yeah...poor men dying for rich men's assets. Nothing ever really changes. At least with the fall of the Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian Empires, we got rid of the family feud wars. 
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Meh...we’ll all be dead soon enough and WW II will be just another war in the long history of war where poor saps were forced to fight for this reason or that instead some imaginary crusade against allegedly unimaginable evil so many perceive it to be now.
Yeah...poor men dying for rich men's assets. Nothing ever really changes. At least with the fall of the Russian, German and Austro-Hungarian Empires, we got rid of the family feud wars. There is that...but replaced them with corporate.
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Genghis Khan killed, by some estimates, 80 million people. Julius Caesar killed around 2 million Gauls in what amounted to little more than a personal publicity campaign. Who knows how many people Alexander offed with his tiny little army?
World War II shaped our world and still looms over it. But so did lots of other wars in their time. When you compare Hitler to the guys mentioned above and/or any other innumerable Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Chinese, Roman, and countless others, many of whom we know almost nothing about, he really wasn’t anything special. Hell, by those standards he was relatively benign. Heresy to utter, I know. But evil was here before him and evil remains after him.
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Pope Pius XII seemed to be awfully cozy with the nazis and fascists He was, yet you'll not find much written about that in recorded "history". You will, however, find documentation of it if you dig. I can also tell you this much, the Italians and especially post-war clergy aren't real proud of it.
Slaves get what they need. Free men get what they want. Rehabilitation is way overrated. Orwell wasn't wrong. GOA member disappointed NRA member 24HCF SEARCH
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