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Ken,
Kind of an odd statement..seeing as how both you an I have posted and listened and taught and been taught-ministerd to on that forum more than once in the past years....

Your experience, humor and relationship with Christ were always appreciated...but I agree, that hymnals & pews at BassPro aren't much edifying..:)

I had not been active on that forum for some months for personal reasons...maybe I had just said my testimony and exhorted often enuf and preferred to not know any more 0of just how sorry some who confess Christ are..at least in cyber world..

I never had any issues with Fish..THO we didn't always agree..and will miss him on the forums and think his exit in this manner was unnecessary.
RickBin,
This is your board..and whatever you do is your decision.
I do agree with a few that found some good on that form..for all the personal or denominational attacks that one occassionally witnessed.

One of my favorite sayings regarding anything that folks endeaver to do AND when they meet trials and opposition:

IF this was easy, everyone would be doing it.

Not everyone will hear nor follow Christ.

Let us hope that from the tone and nature of our postings and replies those who are wanting to follow Christ will see Him in us at times on the regular forums..JIM

Thanks Rick, I read though that forum one time. And as a Catholic had nothing to say and no quarrel with anyone. I never even opened it again. But I agree with you 100%.

it was inevitable that the forum was abused....
when the Christ walked the earth in person, He was abused, too...

i need no special forum to be a believer... i try to post with
Christ's way in mind on all forums...

the fire is not a place that i frequent to learn about God and his ways... what i've learned about God and his ways is entirely appropriate to use in my dealings at the fire.....

Jim:

It was not a quick decision.

Ken exhorted me to get rid of CATC over two years ago, due to the vitriol. Others who have my confidence were also pessimistic. I was pretty much the last holdout, for a LONG time. The anti-Catholic stuff really tested my patience, and when I realized it was not going away ... well, I will not sponsor sustained religious bigotry, plain and simple.

My apologies to those who had to endure it when I was ambivalent because it was not directed toward Catholicism. That was a very big error on my part, and I am truly sorry for my lack of empathy and awareness.

I am not Mormon, or a Jehovah's Witness, or Anglican, or Lutheran, or Orthodox, but I don't believe ANYONE has a right to bash any of these folks for what they believe. I have received PMs from representatives of each of these "denominations" in the past 24 hours expressing general approval, and recounting instances when they felt persecuted on CATC.

Again, to all those folks whose angst I missed in my self-centeredness, because I am sure there are more, I apologize. It shouldn't have happened, especially on my watch.

I don't fault you at all Rick. You've shown more tolerance than most. (I was raised Catholic and now am methodist and have taken hits for both).

Rick,

As with all of the forums, while you may choose to intercede as webmaster,

it is the responsibility of those who come here to manage their own selves and the forum content..

To be civil, tolerant,even when some posts or opinions run against what we believe or the perspectives of others seem foreign to what we have experienced.

I never figgered it was your job to manage me or anyone else..:)
It's OUR job to do that..and young or old, 'tis a good measure of men and women when they can do so..
Best regards, Jim

as a quick edit-postscript:
Daily I and others learn how that last measure of self control is to be better done in this cyber world where thoughts, and emotions travel so fast at the stroke of a finger..Hope we do better..at least that is my own goal here..J

If it's any consolation,.... it ain't gonna run me off.

Nothing will run you off...Not even you....

Bristoe, and yes even you Bart..:)

Hope ya stay around...:)Jim

That is what I thought Rick, but after googleing so many words in his posts I become confused

He confusicates me sometimes too.

I thought it was funny....Humor is good mostly....

How is this for religious tolerance<when you have a government agency with a name like,"the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" you just have to know really bad stuff is going to happen>:

RIYADH (AFP) - A Bangladeshi man died of fright after being arrested by Saudi Arabia�s controversial religious police for washing a car instead of praying, a local newspaper reported on Sunday.

The unnamed man died last week in the holy city of Medina after being detained by members of the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice, Al-Jazirah reported.

The Arabic daily said the man �convulsed in fear after he was arrested, leading to a drop in his blood pressure and causing his death.�

The man was arrested by members of the commission, commonly known as the Muttawa, for washing a car during a time of day when he should have been at prayer, the paper said.

2ndWind,

What we post here in fast response in cyberworld and how we may personally feel in outrage might be quite different.
I am routinely outraged by many things I see and hear..but few will be changed or redone if I speak angrily on this forum.

Sometimes no response can be good.

Neither you nor I can control what men or women or governments do around this planet.

With a bit of effort, ( and faith with knowlege) we DO have some hope of controlling our own thoughts, actions and words so who we are and what we do and how we live builds rather than breaks stuff..Jim

I just got a PM from POP saying he had shipped my 270 wby dies [already got one set and only use one load - 130 xxx but the price was right ] and brass [ got enough already to last 30 years and I'm 65 ] .Courtesy of the classified forum .

Got to reading about the long barreled 1895 Marlins . I've got a 29 in. 458 douglas [ courtesy of the classifieds some years ago ] so the wheels are turning .Ain't shot the ol' Marlin in a year or two so I REALLY need to juice it up .

Like I told Steve : I started hanging out at the CATC forum because it was the CHEAPEST seat in the house !Never felt the urge to rush out and buy anything after reading on it.

Rick started it .Then he moved it .[ Used to " Top'o'the Heap .Remember?]Now he has knocked it in the head , and that's fine with me .{ Sounds better than ;" No skin off my *** !"}

BUT ; Having learned a thing or two about human nature , I fully expect a thread on the order of " The Pope is the anti-christ " or some such nonsense to pop up on this forum .

Got a " Plan B " Rick ?

What do you think?

rb

Good point Jim.....whenever I read stuff like "the Commission for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice" I get an itchy cut and paste finger....I'll try and cut back....some....

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Probably the same bullet in the chamber, cocked and locked and ready to rock feelin' I get when I read anything promulgating the 'orfice of homeland security' or the 'pat-idiot act'...:)Jim

I think the place belongs to you and you keep it up real nice . I also DON'T think you have to explain or defend your actions.

I think that you ought to lock these two PITA threads and start pissing and moaning about Ron Paul or why the Word Association thread won't die....Hell...Lock that one too....