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Have found Hunter to work very well with 100-grain bullets in the .257 Roberts, but Magnum works better with 115-120 grain bullets. In fact I was once told by Doug Phair, the owner of Western Powders until it was recently sold to Hodgdon, that his standard load for 120s in the .257 was filling a case to the mouth with Magnum, then seating a 120 Partition seated on top.

Tried it, and it shot very well. In fact, Eileen used it for a while in her NULA .257. Muzzle velocity was around 2950 fps.


Thanks John,
I will give Magnum a try with those stubby 115 Partitions from SPS.

Thanks again,
Rex


I did, this morning, and Magnum worked great with those bullets. Not really germane to this thread but I wanted to thank Mule Deer for that suggestion.
I'll post my results from this morning on those two threads that got started specifically about these .257 115gr Partitions with the .525 ogive.

Thanks again for the suggestion,
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Just picked up 5 lbs. at Midsouth Shooters Supply. Looking forward to trying this in 7mm-08, 308, 338 FED, and 338-06 đź‘Ť. Have really enjoyed this thread......


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I'm honestly at the point that I'd trade the Big Game I have. I haven't figured out where it's "magic dust" for me yet, and I'm getting tired of trying. YMMV

Also, it is a PITA (those microscopic ball bearings go everywhere!) If you're using an auto dispenser type scale.

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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Have found Hunter to work very well with 100-grain bullets in the .257 Roberts, but Magnum works better with 115-120 grain bullets. In fact I was once told by Doug Phair, the owner of Western Powders until it was recently sold to Hodgdon, that his standard load for 120s in the .257 was filling a case to the mouth with Magnum, then seating a 120 Partition seated on top.

Tried it, and it shot very well. In fact, Eileen used it for a while in her NULA .257. Muzzle velocity was around 2950 fps.

John,

Would you have good charge weight recommendations for Magnum and 115 - 120 Partitions in the .257ai? Thanks.

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I would start with +P data from Ramshot, and add powder until your .257 Ackley Improved gets 100 fps more.than their listed loads. That's about what I found was the difference between the standard .257 and .257 AI

That is, if it has a 24" barrel.


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I may have missed it, but has anyone tried BG in a .338-06 and with what bullets?
Going to work up some loads with using 225 & 250 PT's for an up-coming (hopefully) moose hunt.

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I have used Big Game in 338-06 and the Ackley. Works well.
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Originally Posted by NTG
I'm honestly at the point that I'd trade the Big Game I have. I haven't figured out where it's "magic dust" for me yet, and I'm getting tired of trying. YMMV

Also, it is a PITA (those microscopic ball bearings go everywhere!) If you're using an auto dispenser type scale.

Go with the flow....

Don't use an auto dispenser with that kinda powder, use a powder measure. It flows like water, very consistent drops.

Those "microscopic ball bearings" can't bounce around thru a powder measure, they just drop in the case.

Coarse powders like Vv n-570 work great thru an auto dispenser. Save it for them.

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Runs great through the auto trickler.
Neil Jones micro measure thrown charges are good enough to hold there own at 1000 yards.
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Dave,

Am curious: How's the load do in varying temperatures?

The reason I ask is (as noted earlier) Big Game has proven to be very temp-resistant in several cartridges I've tested at widely varying temperatures. Many powders will be temp-resistant in specific cartridge/bullet applications, but so far I've found BG very good across a pretty wide range of rounds and bullets.


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
Dave,

Am curious: How's the load do in varying temperatures?

The reason I ask is (as noted earlier) Big Game has proven to be very temp-resistant in several cartridges I've tested at widely varying temperatures. Many powders will be temp-resistant in specific cartridge/bullet applications, but so far I've found BG very good across a pretty wide range of rounds and bullets.


Hi John
The 1000 yard silhouette game is a summertime event.
Will typically start testing in April. And the temperature ranges say. 50° to 90° roughly.
Roughly maybe 30 ft per second if that.
Not really enough to take you out of your node.
Big game once used for a while. Really drives the stake through the heart of the old wives tale. About ball powders being dirty. It's simply one of the cleanest powders you can get when you keep it towards the top end.

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All of the Belgian-made Ramshot rifle powders tend to burn very cleanly when pressures get up near max. First noticed it with TAC, in a .223 Remington 700 varmint rifle purchased in 2002, a couple years after TAC appeared. For some reason the factory barrel was one of those that never copper-fouled, right out of the box--but part of that, I suspect, was due to how cleanly TAC burned. The rifle would go 500 rounds without cleaning, and accuracy remained the same. I'd then clean it, just because, and accuracy would go to hell for 12-15 rounds before settling right down again--so eventually I quit cleaning it! Pretty handy on a prairie dog shoot.

I tend to be concerned with velocity variations in cold temperatures, due to mostly hunting big game in Montana, and have tested a bunch of loads with various powders at both 70 and 0 Fahrenheit. Big Game has lost an average of between 19 and 36 fps in several cartridges, which is right in there with the Hodgdon Extremes. Among the loads tested was Big Game with 150-grain bullets in the .30-06, and a little oddly the velocity loss was LESS with CCI 200 primers than Federal 215s. Like Charlie, I have often found Big Game to burn more consistently with magnum primers--but not always....


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Reviving an older thread here...
I put together a heavy barreled 308 for myself, test fired it yesterday. This is WLR primers, Big Game, 168 MK's. 10 shots at 100 yards. Federal brass that was just annealed. And then I forgot to take a picture of the magnetospeed. Yesterday was dead calm air, flags completely limp....kinda the way I felt on return from the Netherlands this week sick
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I found the burn rate perfect for my 338-06 and 225gr Hornady, 2650fps. 22" barrel. I'll have to try magnum primers, but I was happy with an inch. Moose are big .


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There's a couple cartridges I found shot Big Game accurately:

22-250 Remington 700 Classic, 55 grain Hornady V-max, 9 ½, 38.6 Grains Big Game, 0.57 MOA
30-06 Remington 700 ADL, 130 grain Barnes TTSX, 9 ½, 60.7 grins Big Game, 0.72 MOA

Certainly not in the same class as Mr. Sisk's loads/rifles, but these were factory rifles with little tweaking, bedded and free floated. average of three each 5-shot groups...


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Anyone use it in .280 or .280 AI?

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I don’t know how a powder could be more versatile. JB suggested I use it in my 17 Remington. It works extremely well and pours easily into that tiny neck. Then it put an end to this badger that thought I was a prairie dog driving a white pickup…



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Well, I used Big Game yesterday with 165 gr Speer bullets in a .30-06. I think I can live with the results I got.

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Finally found some in my neck of the woods. Picking some up next week. I have a new Howa 30-06, from which I unscrewed the Hogue stock. I then installed a new Vanguard take off stock. Looks pretty sharp now. I have a passel of 150 - 155 grain bullets. I think this might work OK.

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Originally Posted by LOBO2
Anyone use it in .280 or .280 AI?

Big Game has a burn-rate somewhat faster than IMR4350 or H4350--about like Winchester 760. In the .280 AI, Ramshot Magnum works much better, especially with bullets from 150 grains up. Ramshot Hunter is somewhat better than Magnum in the standard .280.


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