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Been saying from the start that this crap is not a vaccine.
Will keep saying that this crap is not a vaccine,because it's not a vaccine.
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Fauci has known since 2005 that HCQ could stop this virus. Instead he lied about HCQ and said people would die. Yes.... Fauci knew about HCQ's effectiveness on COVID in *2015*.... FIFTEEN YEARS before the virus was even known to science. You are one special kind of stupid.
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Actually the definitions there do describe the purpose of the pfizer and moderna "vaccine" You didn't read them very carefully. A vaccine is an antigen which when administered produces an immunity to a disease. Is that definition in doubt? It matters not the method of administration. In what way do the Covid-19 vaccines not meet that definition? They produce immunity in 95% of those administered. Where TF did you come up with that? Fubarski please show up and curtail this moron’s BS.
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Actually the definitions there do describe the purpose of the pfizer and moderna "vaccine" You didn't read them very carefully. Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen administered to a person for the purpose of providing immunity. Copy Vaccine means a specially prepared antigen, which upon administration to a person may result in immunity Thats what you posted...says there will or MaY provide immunity Thats what these "vaccines" claim...they MAY provide immunity Think I read it correctly... But the Pfizer and ModeRNA "vaccines" don't do that. Look up and see what these two "vaccines" actually do. So is the J&J ok? Believe me if I ever decide to get the "vaccine" it wont be either of those two. While it is not a traditonal "vaccine" it is a "vaccine"
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A vaccine is an antigen which when administered produces an immunity to a disease. Is that definition in doubt?
It matters not the method of administration.
In what way do the Covid-19 vaccines not meet that definition? They produce immunity in 95% of those administered.
Where TF did you come up with that? Fubarski please show up and curtail this moron’s BS. So what do you have a problem with? Definition of a vaccine? Look it up! Efficacy rates? Look it up! Trial after trial over several months has verified 95% immunity from Covid produced by mRNA vaccines. Dr after Dr reports almost no Covid infections among the vaccinated population. Please, somebody tell me HOW that is NOT a vaccine????????????? Yes, sure, 1 out of 20 is still susceptible to the disease. That is what 95% efficacy means. No vaccine produces 100% immunity in 100% of patients. Some do better than 95%, and some do considerably worse. They are still vaccines.
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While it may be closer to being an actual vaccine, it definitely ain't OK! Johnson and Johnson.... who have managed to kill people with freakin' talcum powder....
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Been saying from the start that this crap is not a vaccine.
Will keep saying that this crap is not a vaccine,because it's not a vaccine. Please explain HOW it is NOT a vaccine.
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While it may be closer to being an actual vaccine, it definitely ain't OK! Johnson and Johnson.... who have managed to kill people with freakin' talcum powder.... You mean because it is produced by more traditional methods? What matters the method of production? What matters the manner in which the body produces immunity? As long as immunity is produced with considerably less physical harm than caused by the disease? These mRNA vaccines are the coolest medical breakthrough IMO since penicillin. As the technology becomes perfected, we can produce new vaccines almost as fast as new pathogens are discovered. Epidemics can be cured as fast as they are identified. Of course none of this will advance the cause of global population reduction.
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Stupid is as stupid does. Watch Tucker Carlson’s episode that aired tonight. Very informative with stuff you will NEVER hear on other networks
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The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system?
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The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system? Bingo! This mRNA technology is truly intriguing. FDA will not fully approve either one before 2023. Until then, jab recipients are under the microscope. I will remain intrigued from the sidelines.
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Been saying from the start that this crap is not a vaccine.
Will keep saying that this crap is not a vaccine,because it's not a vaccine. Please explain HOW it is NOT a vaccine. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/2j0prsVr/IMG-20210215-112857.png)
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I trust Bill Gates and the rest of his lackeys about as far as I can sling a Holstein by the tail….
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The fact that you guys are still talking about covid is exactly what they want.
It was nothing, is still nothing. Move on.
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The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system? Bingo! This mRNA technology is truly intriguing. FDA will not fully approve either one before 2023. Until then, jab recipients are under the microscope. I will remain intrigued from the sidelines. Yep. He summed it up exactly right.
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I laugh my ass off when these stupid vaccinated mother fugkers (Old Coot) still get sick as a dog.
LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system? Bingo! This mRNA technology is truly intriguing. FDA will not fully approve either one before 2023. Until then, jab recipients are under the microscope. I will remain intrigued from the sidelines. Yep. He summed it up exactly right. DocRocket and hatari will be along shortly. LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Fauci has known since 2005 that HCQ could stop this virus. Instead he lied about HCQ and said people would die. Yes.... Fauci knew about HCQ's effectiveness on COVID in *2015*.... FIFTEEN YEARS before the virus was even known to science. You are one special kind of stupid. Hey duck, Did your Not-a-RN daughter manage to survive the "frontlines." LOL
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system? Bingo! This mRNA technology is truly intriguing. FDA will not fully approve either one before 2023. Until then, jab recipients are under the microscope. I will remain intrigued from the sidelines. Yep. He summed it up exactly right. But the word vaccine gives sheep a warm and fuzzy feeling. If the .gov and pharma companies called it a gene therapy shot the gullible wouldn't swallow it hook, line, and sinker as well. The propaganda is working with that one simple word. "Vaccine" means 100% protection in a sheeps mind. Absolute immunity from the scamdemic to them when they get their shots. They beleive what they want to beleive thru selective hearing. It's what they have been conditioned to believe by their favorite talking heads. All other veiws presented with cold hard facts and how the actual trials were done for only favorable results are lies to them. Cause their talking heads they listen too will never present the truth. They cherry pick for the agenda. Joseph Goebbels would be proud to have been part of this. Dr. Fauci is the Gobbels of this schitt show in many ways. All of this is only the beginning of Liberal Socialist Democrat Utopia If they get a 3 peat of election fruad in 2022 and have super majorities in both houses. Nothing will stop them.... They will get the Scotus They will have 36 lapdog states that will go along with anything they want to do with the constitution. I hope I'm 100% wrong with the 2022 3 peat of election fraud and it's dominoe effect. Rant over......
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Has the curve flattened yet? Of course it has. Infection rates have been steadily declining since they peaked in January. The curve got flat and 8s d3clining. The Pfizer and ModeRNA shots are not vaccines. They are essentially "gene therapy". They inject into you synthesized mRNA (NOT weakened or dead viruses or any such other thing, as in an actual vaccine). This synthetic material modifies your cells to produce a protein. The same type of protein that is supposedly found in the COVID virus, and your immune system is supposed to react to that. The claimed result is that you will be such-and-such percent effectively protected against "symptomatic covid"..... Meaning you can still get it, you can still pass it on to someone else, but you supposedly won't feel the effects of it as much. It does NOT confer immunity.
The only immunity involved here is the immunity that the pharmaceutical manufacturers have from liability for any damage or death they cause.
One also wonders how this "vaccine" might be turned off.... like, how do you stop your cells from producing this extra protein? Does it go on forever? And what consequences might there be from this increased protein in your system? Pretty much correct on the mechanisms involved. Could not be more wrong about the results. Investigate the data. Ignore the talking heads with an agenda, or the ones who get paid according to "clicks".
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